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Reply from: Romeo Raabe
Date: 08 May 2008, 20:55
speeding ticket in Ireland

I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
the time period we were there in a rented car. There were two of us
and have no idea who might have been driving when this happened. The
notice asks for 80 euros by check, which my credit union says they
cannot make out for me and a commercial bank locally says only if I am
their customer. There is no address to send it to and I can't get any
info from the Irish embassy offices here in the US.

I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe legitimate.
i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8 mph and one of us was
probably guilty. I'm just afraid to respond to the email address they
gave for fear of a scam and identity theft.

Has anyone else encountered this and can give advice? I called an
attorney and he said he does not international work and to call
someone else, probably very expensive. Anybody familiar with this
type of thing?

Reply from: William Black
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:00
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland


"Romeo Raabe" <mbwa@netnet,net > wrote in message
news:7f81abce-1e5d-4d11-bbb9-7da37190894c@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
> the time period we were there in a rented car. There were two of us
> and have no idea who might have been driving when this happened. The
> notice asks for 80 euros by check, which my credit union says they
> cannot make out for me and a commercial bank locally says only if I am
> their customer. There is no address to send it to and I can't get any
> info from the Irish embassy offices here in the US.
>
> I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe legitimate.
> i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8 mph and one of us was
> probably guilty. I'm just afraid to respond to the email address they
> gave for fear of a scam and identity theft.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this and can give advice? I called an
> attorney and he said he does not international work and to call
> someone else, probably very expensive. Anybody familiar with this
> type of thing?

Write, by 'snail mail', to the court and explain your position and ask
their advice.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




Reply from: Mike....
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:08
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

Following up to William Black

> Write, by 'snail mail', to the court and explain your position and ask
> their advice.

in the past, its always been said that automatic speeding tickets are paid
by the hire car company and they charge it to your credit card with a hefty
admin add on. I dont know if they have a points system in Ireland or if
this approach applies there but this side has so far been ignored
elsewhere. (However I understand there are plans to change that).

There certainly is no case for needing lawyers. There is however a need for
urgency as there is bound to be a payment period. I cannot understand how
there can be no address to send the payment to. Or for that matter that
there is no system for a US citizen to make a payment to Ireland. (My bank
account can pay in dollar cheques)
--
"Mike....."(not "Mike")
remove clothing to email

Reply from: Tim C.
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:17
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:08:18 +0100, Mike.... wrote:

> Or for that matter that
> there is no system for a US citizen to make a payment to Ireland.

I misses the original post but the local council authority must be printed
on the ticket somewhere. Look up their website and see if there isn't an
option there.

--
Tim C.

Reply from: Martin
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:37
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On Fri, 9 May 2008 09:17:59 +0200, "Tim C." <timchallenger@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:08:18 +0100, Mike.... wrote:
>
>> Or for that matter that
>> there is no system for a US citizen to make a payment to Ireland.
>
>I misses the original post but the local council authority must be printed
>on the ticket somewhere. Look up their website and see if there isn't an
>option there.

OP was worried that it was Nigerian letter.
--

Martin


Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:04
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

Romeo wrote on Thu, 8 May 2008 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT):

> I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe
> legitimate. i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8
> mph and one of us was probably guilty. I'm just afraid to
> respond to the email address they gave for fear of a scam and
> identity theft.

If you are feeling punctilious, you could e-mail asking for an
address. Otherwise, I would be tempted to ignore it. I would not
be surprised if they are still looking for me in Thun,
Switzerland concerning a parking violation 20 years ago :-)
Actually, as a tourist, I might just have been yelled at in the
cop shop and they don't seem to have gone to the trouble of
posting it to the rental agency.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: Romeo Raabe
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:14
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On May 8, 2:04 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.not>
wrote:
>  Romeo  wrote  on Thu, 8 May 2008 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe
> > legitimate. i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8
> > mph and one of us was probably guilty.  I'm just afraid to
> > respond to the email address they gave for fear of a scam and
> > identity theft.
>
> If you are feeling punctilious, you could e-mail asking for an
> address. Otherwise, I would be tempted to ignore it. I would not
> be surprised if they are still looking for me in Thun,
> Switzerland concerning a parking violation 20 years ago :-)
> Actually, as a tourist, I might just have been yelled at in the
> cop shop and they don't seem to have gone to the trouble of
> posting it to the rental agency.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

I assume they got my address from the rental agency, and as incorrect
as it was, I'm amazed they got it to me. I did send an email, once
the Ireland tourism office confirmed that it seemed to be a legitimate
police email address.

Reply from: Martin
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:44
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT), Romeo Raabe <mbwa@netnet,net > wrote:

>On May 8, 2:04 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.not>
>wrote:
>>  Romeo  wrote  on Thu, 8 May 2008 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>> > I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe
>> > legitimate. i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8
>> > mph and one of us was probably guilty.  I'm just afraid to
>> > respond to the email address they gave for fear of a scam and
>> > identity theft.
>>
>> If you are feeling punctilious, you could e-mail asking for an
>> address. Otherwise, I would be tempted to ignore it. I would not
>> be surprised if they are still looking for me in Thun,
>> Switzerland concerning a parking violation 20 years ago :-)
>> Actually, as a tourist, I might just have been yelled at in the
>> cop shop and they don't seem to have gone to the trouble of
>> posting it to the rental agency.
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>>
>> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
>> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>
>I assume they got my address from the rental agency, and as incorrect
>as it was, I'm amazed they got it to me. I did send an email, once
>the Ireland tourism office confirmed that it seemed to be a legitimate
>police email address.

When I had something similar it was forwarded to me by the car hire company.
Once from Denmark by Hertz and once from Italy by Avis.
--

Martin


Reply from: David Gee
Date: 11 May 2008, 01:12
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote in message
news:W8IUj.52517$Bb3.49548@trnddc01...
>
> If you are feeling punctilious, you could e-mail asking for an
> address. Otherwise, I would be tempted to ignore it. I would not be
> surprised if they are still looking for me in Thun, Switzerland
> concerning a parking violation 20 years ago :-) Actually, as a
> tourist, I might just have been yelled at in the cop shop and they
> don't seem to have gone to the trouble of posting it to the rental
> agency.
>
Ha! When I was a student in Neuchatel, Switzerland (long ago!) I went
to the office to obtain a Swiss driver's licence. I filled in the form,
read aloud some lines of type for the eye exam, paid my money, and
headed off. While still in the staircase, I noticed that the space for
the hearing test was blank. I went back up to the office and asked the
examiner "Where do I get the hearing test done?" He looked at me with
evident scorn and shouted "Well, are you DEAF?". I said "NO!" He banged
his official stamp in the right space, and I left quickly without
further delay ...



Reply from: Bert Hyman
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:17
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

mbwa@netnet,net (Romeo Raabe) wrote in
news:7f81abce-1e5d-4d11-bbb9-7da37190894c@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com :

> The notice asks for 80 euros by check, ... There is no address to
> send it to ...

Check, but no address?

So, how's that supposed to work?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse,com

Reply from: Gerry Butler
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:42
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland


"Romeo Raabe" <mbwa@netnet,net > wrote in message
news:7f81abce-1e5d-4d11-bbb9-7da37190894c@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
> the time period we were there in a rented car. There were two of us
> and have no idea who might have been driving when this happened. The
> notice asks for 80 euros by check, which my credit union says they
> cannot make out for me and a commercial bank locally says only if I am
> their customer. There is no address to send it to and I can't get any
> info from the Irish embassy offices here in the US.
>
> I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe legitimate.
> i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8 mph and one of us was
> probably guilty. I'm just afraid to respond to the email address they
> gave for fear of a scam and identity theft.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this and can give advice? I called an
> attorney and he said he does not international work and to call
> someone else, probably very expensive. Anybody familiar with this
> type of thing?

Check out:
http :// www .transport.ie/upload/general/4743-0.pdf
www .penaltypoints.ie
http :// www .citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/motoring-1/driving-offences/penalty-points-for-driving-offences

for information on how speeding tickets work in Ireland

using 'penalty points' and 'ireland' in google will provide a lot more
information.

Gerry



Reply from: Tom P
Date: 08 May 2008, 22:25
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

Gerry Butler wrote:
> "Romeo Raabe" <mbwa@netnet,net > wrote in message
> news:7f81abce-1e5d-4d11-bbb9-7da37190894c@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>> I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
>> the time period we were there in a rented car. There were two of us
>> and have no idea who might have been driving when this happened. The
>> notice asks for 80 euros by check, which my credit union says they
>> cannot make out for me and a commercial bank locally says only if I am
>> their customer. There is no address to send it to and I can't get any
>> info from the Irish embassy offices here in the US.
>>
>> I am afraid it might be a scam, identity theft, or maybe legitimate.
>> i was alleged to be 15 KM over the limt, about 8 mph and one of us was
>> probably guilty. I'm just afraid to respond to the email address they
>> gave for fear of a scam and identity theft.
>>
>> Has anyone else encountered this and can give advice? I called an
>> attorney and he said he does not international work and to call
>> someone else, probably very expensive. Anybody familiar with this
>> type of thing?
>
> Check out:
> http :// www .transport.ie/upload/general/4743-0.pdf
> www .penaltypoints.ie
> http :// www .citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/motoring-1/driving-offences/penalty-points-for-driving-offences
>
> for information on how speeding tickets work in Ireland
>
> using 'penalty points' and 'ireland' in google will provide a lot more
> information.
>
> Gerry
>
>
I see you can input questions on the Citizens Information website. The
OP should ask for the SWIFT/IBAN routing code and account number for
settlement.


T.

Reply from: Frank Hucklenbroich
Date: 09 May 2008, 08:52
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

Am Thu, 8 May 2008 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) schrieb Romeo Raabe:

> I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
> the time period we were there in a rented car.

I would ask the car-rent company. Once they (the rental company) don't book
the money from your credit-card, you could easily ignore the ticket. There
is no way they can get the money from you if you live abroad.

Even within Europe you can still get away with not paying tickets from
foreign-countries, except a few (Austria and Germany have some kind of
agreement). Just don't go to that country again with the same car ;-)

Regards,

Frank

Reply from: Martin
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:31
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:52:37 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol,com >
wrote:

>Am Thu, 8 May 2008 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) schrieb Romeo Raabe:
>
>> I just received what looks like a speeding ticket from Ireland, for
>> the time period we were there in a rented car.
>
>I would ask the car-rent company. Once they (the rental company) don't book
>the money from your credit-card, you could easily ignore the ticket. There
>is no way they can get the money from you if you live abroad.
>
>Even within Europe you can still get away with not paying tickets from
>foreign-countries, except a few (Austria and Germany have some kind of
>agreement). Just don't go to that country again with the same car ;-)

EU countries are on the point of agreeing to collect traffic fines imposed by
other member states. Others already have some kind of agreement include Holland
and Belgium. The Dutch record unpaid fines, if you arrive at a Dutch passport
control you will be expected to pay the fine+penalties for non payment on the
spot.
--

Martin


Reply from: Jim Ley
Date: 09 May 2008, 09:38
Re: speeding ticket in Ireland

On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:31:45 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>EU countries are on the point of agreeing to collect traffic fines imposed by
>other member states. Others already have some kind of agreement include Holland
>and Belgium. The Dutch record unpaid fines, if you arrive at a Dutch passport
>control you will be expected to pay the fine+penalties for non payment on the
>spot.

A friend of mine regularly visits holland with an unpaid jaywalking
fine hanging over him, so I don't know how well it works.

Jim.


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