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Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Reply from: Runge11
Date: 06 May 2008, 21:27
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

...and miss the 5 Euro flights, tax included !
Life is difficult.

"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> a écrit dans le message de
news:sl1Uj.7066$R 4.5703@newsb.telia,net ...
>
>
> "tims next home" <tims new home@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> news:68afe2F2sdm75U1@mid.individual,net ...
>> http :// news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>>
>> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
>> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
>> headline!).
>>
>> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
>> genuine taxes).
>>
>> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
>> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
>> check in bags for fun.
>>
> No they don't . But you've a choice to travel Ryan or not. And
> you've probably a choice to have a carry-on or not. As it's much money
> involved with checked luggage handling I think it's fair that those using
> that service have to pay for it.
> Don't like it ? Just go with another airline.
>


Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 07 May 2008, 09:28
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Lennart Petersen <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote:

> "tims next home" <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> news:68afe2F2sdm75U1@mid.individual,net ...
> > http :// news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
> >
> > Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
> > Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
> > headline!).
> >
> > That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
> > genuine taxes).
> >
> > And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
> > until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
> > check in bags for fun.
> >
> No they don't . But you've a choice to travel Ryan or not. And you've
> probably a choice to have a carry-on or not. As it's much money involved
> with checked luggage handling I think it's fair that those using that
> service have to pay for it.
> Don't like it ? Just go with another airline.

A lot of other budget airlines have already adopted this practise.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: tims next home
Date: 19 May 2008, 18:43
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote in message
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>
>
> "tims next home" <tims new home@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> news:68afe2F2sdm75U1@mid.individual,net ...
>> http :// news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>>
>> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
>> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
>> headline!).
>>
>> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
>> genuine taxes).
>>
>> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
>> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
>> check in bags for fun.
>>
> No they don't . But you've a choice to travel Ryan or not. And
> you've probably a choice to have a carry-on or not.

You try travelling without carrying liquids.

It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.

I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only

And yes I know that it costs the airline money to carry luggage, it was the
quantum I was complaining about, not the principle.

Tim


Reply from: William Black
Date: 19 May 2008, 18:53
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"tims next home" <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:69dpbdF305sa1U1@mid.individual,net ...

> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
> you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>
> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
> reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
> the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only

I assume you're not serious.

You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




Reply from: Martin
Date: 19 May 2008, 19:05
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:53:49 +0100, "William Black"
<william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"tims next home" <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:69dpbdF305sa1U1@mid.individual,net ...
>
>> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
>> you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>>
>> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
>> reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
>> the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only
>
>I assume you're not serious.
>
>You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.

My wife forgot her make up stuff on a trip to the USA. She also ended up with a
very bad allergic reaction. These things happen.
--

Martin


Reply from: Mister B
Date: 21 May 2008, 09:50
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On May 19, 7:05 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:53:49 +0100, "William Black"
>
> <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >"tims next home" <tims new h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:69dpbdF305sa1U1@mid.individual,net ...
>
> >> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
> >> you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>
> >> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
> >> reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
> >> the doctor!  All because I travelled carry on only
>
> >I assume you're not serious.
>
> >You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.
>
> My wife forgot her make up stuff on a trip to the USA. She also ended up with a
> very bad allergic reaction. These things happen.

http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

B;

Reply from: Martin
Date: 21 May 2008, 10:23
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On Wed, 21 May 2008 00:50:13 -0700 (PDT), Mister B <jeremyrh.geo@yahoo,com >
wrote:

>On May 19, 7:05 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:53:49 +0100, "William Black"
>>
>> <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >"tims next home" <tims new h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:69dpbdF305sa1U1@mid.individual,net ...
>>
>> >> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
>> >> you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>>
>> >> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
>> >> reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
>> >> the doctor!  All because I travelled carry on only
>>
>> >I assume you're not serious.
>>
>> >You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.
>>
>> My wife forgot her make up stuff on a trip to the USA. She also ended up with a
>> very bad allergic reaction. These things happen.

She bought replacements from KLM, a well known make not something made from sump
oil like their salad dressing.

>
> http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

LOL

Gordon Ramsay without a kitchen.
--

Martin


Reply from: tims next home
Date: 19 May 2008, 19:10
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0sbao$ud6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> "tims next home" <tims new home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:69dpbdF305sa1U1@mid.individual,net ...
>
>> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on
>> holiday you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>>
>> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival
>> has reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to
>> visit the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only
>
> I assume you're not serious.
>
> You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.

And I bought "decent" toiltries, just not a brand that I was used to

tim


Reply from: Jack Campin - bogus address
Date: 19 May 2008, 20:07
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

>> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on
>> holiday you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival
>> has reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have
>> to visit the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only
> I assume you're not serious.
> You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.

If you have contact dermatitis to chemicals, Britain is a difficult
place to be. You won't find hypoallergenic stuff without witchy
additives in the UK anywhere near as easily as you will in almost any
country in continental Europe, and British labelling often conceals
the really dire ingredients like clioquinol (Marion is hypersensitive
to that one). So if the original poster was talking about a holiday
visit to the UK they had a point. Who wants to spend the first half
day of their holiday trying to buy soap or aqueous cream and reading
fine print on labels in a foreign language?

==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === < http :// www .campin.me.uk> ====
Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 19 May 2008, 21:21
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Jack Campin - bogus address <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on
> >> holiday you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
> >> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival
> >> has reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have
> >> to visit the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only
> > I assume you're not serious.
> > You can get decent toiletries just about everywhere in the world.
>
> If you have contact dermatitis to chemicals, Britain is a difficult
> place to be. You won't find hypoallergenic stuff without witchy
> additives in the UK anywhere near as easily as you will in almost any
> country in continental Europe, and British labelling often conceals
> the really dire ingredients like clioquinol (Marion is hypersensitive
> to that one). So if the original poster was talking about a holiday
> visit to the UK they had a point. Who wants to spend the first half
> day of their holiday trying to buy soap or aqueous cream and reading
> fine print on labels in a foreign language?

While I accept some people have these problems, most people don't. Go to
a discount store in the UK, and you'll see plenty of people buying the
cheapest toiletries available (I'm one of them, usually) and we're not
all coming out in hives.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 19 May 2008, 19:09
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

tims next home <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[]
> It was easy when I just travelled between houses but when going on holiday
> you have to take a full set of toiletries with you.
>
> I just tried travelling without and the stuff that I bought on arrival has
> reacted with my skin and given me a horrible rash, so I now have to visit
> the doctor! All because I travelled carry on only

Fair enough Tim, but not everyone will have (or encounter) that kind of
problem. If I'm going for 4 days or less, the 100ml or less rule is fine
for me. For longer trips, I buy at the other end, where toiletries are
not outrageously priced IMO. I admit that people have very different
needs, but a 100ml toothpaste and 100ml shaving cream do perfectly well
for my needs for most trips- hotels I stay in generally offer
soap/shampoo, but even if they don't, I don't find it a big deal to buy
some extra.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Jesper Lauridsen
Date: 20 May 2008, 20:25
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On 2008-05-06, tims next home <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my stuff in a carry
> on bag. But that's an EZY carry on bag with no weight limit and 20% larger
> dimensions than FR. I would have failed to manage this with a Ryanair sized
> bag. And I have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at all: I
> have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I prefer to take,
> and I'm allowed insufficient liquid toiletries so that I'm going to have to
> buy stuff when I arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do hate
> the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away society!).
>
> I really do think that he is going too far with these new charges.

Maybe it's time for you to simply consider the bagage charges as part of the
cost of travelling on Ryanair?

Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 20 May 2008, 20:59
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Jesper wrote on 20 May 2008 18:25:42 GMT:

> On 2008-05-06, tims next home <tims new home@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my
>> stuff in a carry on bag. But that's an EZY carry on bag with
>> no weight limit and 20% larger dimensions than FR. I would
>> have failed to manage this with a Ryanair sized bag. And I
>> have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at
>> all: I
>> have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I
>> prefer to take, and I'm allowed insufficient liquid
>> toiletries so that I'm going to have to buy stuff when I
>> arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do hate
>> the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away
>> society!).
>>
>> I really do think that he is going too far with these new
>> charges.

> Maybe it's time for you to simply consider the bagage
> charges as part of thecost of travelling on Ryanair?

I find this "unbundling" of charges instead of a single cost to
be very irritating and it's almost always a disguised raising of
prices. Hospitals have been doing it too for a while around
here!
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: Markku Grönroos
Date: 20 May 2008, 21:39
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> kirjoitti
viestissä:qcFYj.22119$sX5.1971@trnddc02...
>
> I find this "unbundling" of charges instead of a single cost to
Flying in general has become drastically cheaper that it was just 20-30
years ago. I remember when I had a few intercontinental flights by
"IATA-youth" tickets during the first half of 1980's. 3600 FIM two ways to
Nairobi. 4000 FIM return to Mexico City and so. "Adults" paid 100-200% more
than that. For legs like that I pay as much as or less than for a
non-refundable tourist ticket 25 years back (adjusting these fares to
general costs of living; a fraction what I did 25 years back). Fares for
short and medium range flights have plummetted even more sharply.

The major reason for this is naturally ripping off most of the insane set of
regulations which caused the starvation in the European skies: only wealthy
people and businessmen flew from one point to another in Europe. "National
flag carriers" practically speaking operated both as monopoly companies (on
their dedicated routes) and as cartel companies (along with other European
carriers). Only employees in the air travel business won, everyone else lost
and heavily so.

Naturally this new concept of the point to point services reduces expenses a
lot (guaranteeing connecting flights is expensive and has - no doubt -
raised fares even in those route in which they are void) and is an
opportunity for those who don't need complex routing. Travellers' luggage
compete with cargo of other sort. It is natural and right that the expense
of carrying checked luggage is in a separate line of the bill.


Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 20 May 2008, 22:26
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

James Silverton <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> wrote:

[]
> I find this "unbundling" of charges instead of a single cost to
> be very irritating and it's almost always a disguised raising of
> prices. Hospitals have been doing it too for a while around
> here!

It's less irritating when you pay £2.49 for a return trip to Dublin as I
did today, for myself and my students. (The US student's ticket was a
whopping £18.42 however, as she's not allowed to do online checkin- and
I wanted her to be able to priority board with the rest of us.)

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins


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