Travelling in Scotland and England

Re: Travelling in Scotland and England


"Tim C." <timchallenger@yahoo.co.uk> kirjoitti
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> On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:44:31 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, the
> chancellor wrote:
>
>>> fact, but do you disagree that the views you're likely to get from a
>>> twisty
>>> country lane are likely to be better?
>>
>> If you're driving, I think it's a better idea to keep an idea on the
>> road.
>
> Not everyone in a car is driving.
> You can stop and take a look. Take a detour, or not, as your mood takes
> you.
>
I just returned from Northern Norway. You can see a lot more off-road on
foot, on skis or perhaps by a motor sledge. Norwegians must have more
trailers per capita than folks elsewhere.

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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor

> Tim, you're obviously not keeping up- travelling on the railways is the
> whole _point_ here. Not knowing how they are built etc.

the point is knowing where they run. The many interesting places you may
find yourself on minor roads are only rarely served by railways or have
railways passing by. Even where they are, passing by on a train is no
substitute for stopping your car, feeling the wind on your face and hearing
the lapwings cry.
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Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> > Tim, you're obviously not keeping up- travelling on the railways is the
> > whole _point_ here. Not knowing how they are built etc.
>
> the point is knowing where they run. The many interesting places you may
> find yourself on minor roads are only rarely served by railways or have
> railways passing by. Even where they are, passing by on a train is no
> substitute for stopping your car, feeling the wind on your face and hearing
> the lapwings cry.

And being disturbed by another driver tanking it past you. Yup.

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onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Re: Travelling in Scotland and England

Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor

>> the point is knowing where they run. The many interesting places you may
>> find yourself on minor roads are only rarely served by railways or have
>> railways passing by. Even where they are, passing by on a train is no
>> substitute for stopping your car, feeling the wind on your face and hearing
>> the lapwings cry.
>
> And being disturbed by another driver tanking it past you.

you wont find anybody tanking it past you on those roads, in any case just
take a walk for a few minutes away from the road. Its a simple fact the
best access to rural beauty is the car.
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On Thu, 8 May 2008 07:58:05 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_
chancellor wrote:

> And being disturbed by another driver tanking it past you. Yup.

The motoring equivalent of the twat sitting next to you in the train with
his/her PC/MAC beeping all the bloody time. or the tss tsst tss of music
from walkman headphones.
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Tim C.

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Following up to Tim C.

>> And being disturbed by another driver tanking it past you. Yup.
>
> The motoring equivalent of the twat sitting next to you in the train with
> his/her PC/MAC beeping all the bloody time. or the tss tsst tss of music
> from walkman headphones.

Oafish drunks from the City are worse! Apparently BoJo is going to ban them
from drinking, trouble is most don't actually drink on the train. I look
forward to rail employees removing drinks from football supporters....
Still at least I think he plans to sell the awful bendy buses.
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"Mike...." <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Still at least I think he plans to sell the awful bendy buses.

I seem to have missed the fuss over this one.

What exactly is wrong with the bendy buses?


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Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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Following up to William Black

>> Still at least I think he plans to sell the awful bendy buses.
>
> I seem to have missed the fuss over this one.
>
> What exactly is wrong with the bendy buses?

in a city with lots of narrow curving roads with bridges built to accomdate
double deckers they make no sense and scare pedestrians and cyclists. They
also block junctions all the time. There have been quite a few fatalities
squashing people trapped beside them. (A few caught fire for some reason)
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Tim C. <timchallenger@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 May 2008 07:58:05 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_
> chancellor wrote:
>
> > And being disturbed by another driver tanking it past you. Yup.
>
> The motoring equivalent of the twat sitting next to you in the train with
> his/her PC/MAC beeping all the bloody time. or the tss tsst tss of music
> from walkman headphones.

The quiet coaches here are generally fine. I usually sit in them.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Re: Travelling in Scotland and England

On Thu, 8 May 2008 07:56:32 +0100, "Mike...."
<mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

>Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
>> Tim, you're obviously not keeping up- travelling on the railways is the
>> whole _point_ here. Not knowing how they are built etc.
>
>the point is knowing where they run. The many interesting places you may
>find yourself on minor roads are only rarely served by railways or have
>railways passing by. Even where they are, passing by on a train is no
>substitute for stopping your car, feeling the wind on your face and hearing
>the lapwings cry.

I think it's possible to have the best of both worlds.

When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
then home. For that matter, there were some excellent walks doable by
public transport nearer home - in the Mendip Hills for example, or the
coast path Clevedon-Portishead. Then there was the Railway Path
Bristol-Bath, sections of the Cotswold Way etc.

On the other hand, less accessible areas of Wales really did need a
car to get me there - so if I felt like it I'd hire one every now and
again.

OK a long time ago - but my father and I spent 3 weeks hiking in the
Scottish Highlands, using what rail and bus services there
were....,es pecially the little post-buses which really do go through
the middle of nowhere.



Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen

Re: Travelling in Scotland and England

Keith Anderson <keefy@privacy,net > wrote:

[]
> I think it's possible to have the best of both worlds.
>
> When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
> Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
> south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
> then home. For that matter, there were some excellent walks doable by
> public transport nearer home - in the Mendip Hills for example, or the
> coast path Clevedon-Portishead. Then there was the Railway Path
> Bristol-Bath, sections of the Cotswold Way etc.

Yes, but some people would argue that's not 'real' countryside.

One of my favourite local trips is the train to Edale, then walking
around there. Another one is walking from the station at Whaley Bridge
to Buxton, via the reservoirs, though the last couple of miles involves
walking alongside a road.

--
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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Re: Travelling in Scotland and England

Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor

>> When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
>> Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
>> south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
>> then home. For that matter, there were some excellent walks doable by
>> public transport nearer home - in the Mendip Hills for example, or the
>> coast path Clevedon-Portishead. Then there was the Railway Path
>> Bristol-Bath, sections of the Cotswold Way etc.
>
> Yes, but some people would argue that's not 'real' countryside.

complete bolox.
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Following up to Keith Anderson

> I think it's possible to have the best of both worlds.

I don't see why not.

> When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
> Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
> south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
> then home. For that matter, there were some excellent walks doable by
> public transport nearer home - in the Mendip Hills for example, or the
> coast path Clevedon-Portishead. Then there was the Railway Path
> Bristol-Bath, sections of the Cotswold Way etc.

we did the Thames path using trains, saves hassle

> On the other hand, less accessible areas of Wales really did need a
> car to get me there - so if I felt like it I'd hire one every now and
> again.

If you don't need a car day to day it makes sense.

> OK a long time ago - but my father and I spent 3 weeks hiking in the
> Scottish Highlands, using what rail and bus services there
> were....,es pecially the little post-buses which really do go through
> the middle of nowhere.

I have always said it can be done, its harder of course, sometimes a lot
harder. I've done a tour of the ELD on foot several times, staying at pubs,
great! But quite hard work.

I normally applaud people who do things without a car, however, I cant
stand distortions of the truth about what cars are good at for the sake of
some perceived principal, especially when it comes from those who access
the countryside little.

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On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:45:31 +0200, Keith Anderson wrote:

> I think it's possible to have the best of both worlds.
>
> When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
> Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
> south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
> then home.

That's the best of about 5 worlds, Keith!

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Tim C.

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Following up to Tim C.

>> I think it's possible to have the best of both worlds.
>>
>> When I lived in Bristol I used to (for example) take the train to
>> Taunton, bus to Minehead and thence to Porlock Weir, walk the
>> south-west coastal path from there to Lynton, bus back to Taunton and
>> then home.
>
> That's the best of about 5 worlds, Keith!

funny, I almost said that! The old South West path is a world on its own,
I did plan to walk it but its quite an undertaking and you need a longer
break than non retired have. When you retire its probably too hard!
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