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Hunting for free Wi-Fi

Reply from: Jack Campin - bogus address
Date: 05 May 2008, 17:40
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

>> Hints from any country are appreciated.
> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you connect
> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number must
> be from a German operator.
>
> So, no dice for the traveller.

Just ask somebody at the next table to pick up the password for you?

In Slovakia there are loads of cafes with free wi-fi, there's usually
a sign. Much commoner than internet cafes with terminals.

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Reply from: Martin
Date: 05 May 2008, 18:04
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

On Mon, 05 May 2008 16:40:54 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>> Hints from any country are appreciated.
>> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you connect
>> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
>> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number must
>> be from a German operator.

It actually says you have a choice of password via e-mail or via SMS.

>>
>> So, no dice for the traveller.
>
>Just ask somebody at the next table to pick up the password for you?
>
>In Slovakia there are loads of cafes with free wi-fi, there's usually
>a sign. Much commoner than internet cafes with terminals.
>
>==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === < http :// www .campin.me.uk> ====
>Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
>CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
--

Martin


Reply from: Martin
Date: 05 May 2008, 18:05
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:04:09 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2008 16:40:54 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
><bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> Hints from any country are appreciated.
>>> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you connect
>>> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
>>> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number must
>>> be from a German operator.
>
>It actually says you have a choice of password via e-mail or via SMS.
>
>>>
>>> So, no dice for the traveller.
>>
>>Just ask somebody at the next table to pick up the password for you?

It took me two minutes to get one via e-mail.
--

Martin


Reply from: Runge11
Date: 05 May 2008, 21:35
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

martin our new master

"Martin" <me@address.invalid> a écrit dans le message de
news:52cu14t3ohe7e3j3nr45a7omtp3hne9jeo@4ax,com ...
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:04:09 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 16:40:54 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>><bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Hints from any country are appreciated.
>>>> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you
>>>> connect
>>>> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
>>>> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number
>>>> must
>>>> be from a German operator.
>>
>>It actually says you have a choice of password via e-mail or via SMS.
>>
>>>>
>>>> So, no dice for the traveller.
>>>
>>>Just ask somebody at the next table to pick up the password for you?
>
> It took me two minutes to get one via e-mail.
> --
>
> Martin
>


Reply from: poldy
Date: 06 May 2008, 05:22
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

In article <481f08c7$0$4459$ba624c82@nntp02.dk.telia,net >,
Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:

> On 2008-05-05, Ian F. <wowfabgroovy@googlemail,com > wrote:
> > "Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:7hft14d17e4i7p1e7mlaiabtcppck9carh@4ax,com ...
> >
> >> The bit you snipped referred to Germany.
> >
> > Apologies.
>
> Hints from any country are appreciated.
>
>
> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you connect
> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number must
> be from a German operator.
>
> So, no dice for the traveller.

Are there free Wifi spots in Denmark?

Haven't found too many in the places I've visited. Found unprotected
Wi-fi networks near some apartments but that's about it.

I also tried an Aldi SIM in Berlin last summer. Supposedly it's suppose
to have some UTMS data but could not get it to work on my Nokia E61i.

It seems in a lot of hotels, you have some hotspots operated by mobile
operators and their fees are priced to let you surf for about an hour or
so. Otherwise prohibitive.

Some day, maybe hotels and businesses will look at Wifi the same way
they look at AC. Not as another profit opportunity but an essential
amenity which brings them customers.

But understandably, Internet is a threat to retail. A big shopping mall
where I live has a free hotspot by the Apple store. But there is also a
hotspot at the Sony Style store in another part of the mall.

I tried surfing sites like Amazon and shopping sites are blocked. Sony
is using some software which blocks those sites, so you can't
price-compare retail prices vs. online prices.

Reply from: Martin
Date: 06 May 2008, 09:31
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

On Mon, 05 May 2008 20:22:29 -0700, poldy <poldy@kfu,com > wrote:

>In article <481f08c7$0$4459$ba624c82@nntp02.dk.telia,net >,
> Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>
>> On 2008-05-05, Ian F. <wowfabgroovy@googlemail,com > wrote:
>> > "Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:7hft14d17e4i7p1e7mlaiabtcppck9carh@4ax,com ...
>> >
>> >> The bit you snipped referred to Germany.
>> >
>> > Apologies.
>>
>> Hints from any country are appreciated.
>>
>>
>> As for McDonalds, according to mcdonalds.de, the procedure is you connect
>> to their network and enter your mobile number at the login page. Your
>> password is then sent by SMS. Problem is that they insist the number must
>> be from a German operator.
>>
>> So, no dice for the traveller.
>
>Are there free Wifi spots in Denmark?
>
>Haven't found too many in the places I've visited. Found unprotected
>Wi-fi networks near some apartments but that's about it.
>
>I also tried an Aldi SIM in Berlin last summer. Supposedly it's suppose
>to have some UTMS data but could not get it to work on my Nokia E61i.
>
>It seems in a lot of hotels, you have some hotspots operated by mobile
>operators and their fees are priced to let you surf for about an hour or
>so. Otherwise prohibitive.
>
>Some day, maybe hotels and businesses will look at Wifi the same way
>they look at AC. Not as another profit opportunity but an essential
>amenity which brings them customers.
>
>But understandably, Internet is a threat to retail. A big shopping mall
>where I live has a free hotspot by the Apple store. But there is also a
>hotspot at the Sony Style store in another part of the mall.
>
>I tried surfing sites like Amazon and shopping sites are blocked. Sony
>is using some software which blocks those sites, so you can't
>price-compare retail prices vs. online prices.

I foresee niche market selling McD wifi passwords to those who can't understand
simple German.
--

Martin


Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 06 May 2008, 19:15
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 May 2008 20:22:29 -0700, poldy <poldy@kfu,com > wrote:
[]
> >Some day, maybe hotels and businesses will look at Wifi the same way
> >they look at AC. Not as another profit opportunity but an essential
> >amenity which brings them customers.
> >
> >But understandably, Internet is a threat to retail. A big shopping mall
> >where I live has a free hotspot by the Apple store. But there is also a
> >hotspot at the Sony Style store in another part of the mall.
> >
> >I tried surfing sites like Amazon and shopping sites are blocked. Sony
> >is using some software which blocks those sites, so you can't
> >price-compare retail prices vs. online prices.
>
> I foresee niche market selling McD wifi passwords to those who can't
> understand simple German.

Just as a data point (ho-ho) I'm currently using the free wifi (clearly
signposted on the outside of the building) at The Prince of Teck pub on
Earl's Court Road, London. Across the road is a branch of The Coffee
Republic offering it. Nearby is a Starbucks that has paid wifi. If I'm
in this area in the future, no guesses which place I'd choose to have a
coffee and check email etc.!

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: poldy
Date: 07 May 2008, 05:38
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

In article <1igj6mg.xre50etly6f4N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>,
d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

> Just as a data point (ho-ho) I'm currently using the free wifi (clearly
> signposted on the outside of the building) at The Prince of Teck pub on
> Earl's Court Road, London. Across the road is a branch of The Coffee
> Republic offering it. Nearby is a Starbucks that has paid wifi. If I'm
> in this area in the future, no guesses which place I'd choose to have a
> coffee and check email etc.!

Which one has smokers?

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 07 May 2008, 09:22
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

poldy <poldy@kfu,com > wrote:

> In article <1igj6mg.xre50etly6f4N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>,
> d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> > Just as a data point (ho-ho) I'm currently using the free wifi (clearly
> > signposted on the outside of the building) at The Prince of Teck pub on
> > Earl's Court Road, London. Across the road is a branch of The Coffee
> > Republic offering it. Nearby is a Starbucks that has paid wifi. If I'm
> > in this area in the future, no guesses which place I'd choose to have a
> > coffee and check email etc.!
>
> Which one has smokers?

None, which is why Starbucks is no longer the obvious wifi point for me
it once was. By the way, I'm now in that Coffee Republic, but not even
having to use their free wifi.... I'm picking up another open signal
(Court Hotel.)

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: congokid
Date: 07 May 2008, 11:36
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

In article <1igj6mg.xre50etly6f4N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> writes

>Just as a data point (ho-ho) I'm currently using the free wifi (clearly
>signposted on the outside of the building) at The Prince of Teck pub on
>Earl's Court Road, London. Across the road is a branch of The Coffee
>Republic offering it.
> Nearby is a Starbucks that has paid wifi. If I'm
>in this area in the future, no guesses which place I'd choose to have a
>coffee and check email etc.!

A 2 min walk away from me are a Cafe Nero, a Starbucks and an
independent coffee shop. Both of the first two have paid for wifi, and I
often take my laptop to Cafe Nero as I prefer their coffee to Starbucks,
but just to do word processing - I don't go online.

The independent cafe has computers in the back room, but I don't know if
it offers wifi and I've not noticed signs.

In Prague the weekend before last my hotel offered free wifi, as does
the hotel I stayed in last year and, I understand, lots of other hotels
there. And I picked up a free signal at Cafe Cafe near Old Town Square.
Another cafe on the same street also offered free wifi.
--
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http :// congokid,com

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 07 May 2008, 13:03
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

congokid <congokid@congokid,com > wrote:

> In article <1igj6mg.xre50etly6f4N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>
> >Just as a data point (ho-ho) I'm currently using the free wifi (clearly
> >signposted on the outside of the building) at The Prince of Teck pub on
> >Earl's Court Road, London. Across the road is a branch of The Coffee
> >Republic offering it.
> > Nearby is a Starbucks that has paid wifi. If I'm
> >in this area in the future, no guesses which place I'd choose to have a
> >coffee and check email etc.!
>
> A 2 min walk away from me are a Cafe Nero, a Starbucks and an
> independent coffee shop. Both of the first two have paid for wifi, and I
> often take my laptop to Cafe Nero as I prefer their coffee to Starbucks,
> but just to do word processing - I don't go online.

As I have a subscription, the paid for doesn't bother me. I've never
exceeded the 500 minutes anyway... I'm currently at Euston station on
the BT openzone wifi, which is a little flaky today. Not as flaky as the
signals at Bletchley yesterday though... :(

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: congokid
Date: 08 May 2008, 11:30
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

In article <1igkk1z.bvzc2o1pwi6qxN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>congokid <congokid@congokid,com > wrote:

>> A 2 min walk away from me are a Cafe Nero, a Starbucks and an
>> independent coffee shop. Both of the first two have paid for wifi, and I
>> often take my laptop to Cafe Nero as I prefer their coffee to Starbucks,
>> but just to do word processing - I don't go online.
>
>As I have a subscription, the paid for doesn't bother me.

Oh - I thought we were discussing hunting for 'free' wifi.
--
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http :// congokid,com

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 09 May 2008, 14:14
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

congokid <congokid@congokid,com > wrote:

> In article <1igkk1z.bvzc2o1pwi6qxN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >congokid <congokid@congokid,com > wrote:
>
> >> A 2 min walk away from me are a Cafe Nero, a Starbucks and an
> >> independent coffee shop. Both of the first two have paid for wifi, and I
> >> often take my laptop to Cafe Nero as I prefer their coffee to Starbucks,
> >> but just to do word processing - I don't go online.
> >
> >As I have a subscription, the paid for doesn't bother me.
>
> Oh - I thought we were discussing hunting for 'free' wifi.

We were. I discussed it already.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Ned Flanders
Date: 05 May 2008, 21:38
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

On 5 May, 09:53, "Ian F." <wowfabgro...@googlemail,com > wrote:
> "Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:ipet14t97qkapaj628uvv672sgn3hsjsoo@4ax,com ...
>
> > McDs sell beer
>
> Not in the UK they don't!
>
> Ian

dats cos yor 2 proodish...

Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 05 May 2008, 19:43
Re: Hunting for free Wi-Fi

Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:

> Having purchased an iPod Touch with the entention of using it for
> checking email when travelling, I'll be interested in hearing how
> others find networks when in a strange city. Where do you go, what
> do you look for?

Free wifi signs! :) However, I usually roam on providers via my BT
account when abroad. Things like the aforementioned McD's are fine if
there is a McD where you are (they're not everywhere) but when looking
for a signal in Germany, I've found it fairly easy to get a t-mobile
signal in populated areas in the last few years when visiting Germany.

However, paid roaming is not handy if you want to spend an hour online
watching video, but is very cost effective for downloading/sending
email, news, or directed browsing. (i.e. you're after something in
particular.) My last trip to Cologne, I was in several places (mostly
bars or restaurants) with free wifi. I don't trust the websites for
information, as they're not very current. Hotel staff are sometimes
helpful too, providing they don't offer their own paid service! :) (Free
wifi in hotels tends to be at more expensive establishments IME.)

You might also investigate FON. I found this fantastic in Spain, but
although it does have a Germany branch, I haven't noticed any when
scanning networks there recently...

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins


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