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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> i have always been rather interested in railways, more when I was younger.
>> I probably know a lot more about them than you know about driving and
>> visiting rural areas.
>
> I very much doubt it.
You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside. I was looking
at the site of Brunels atmospheric project just the other day, not to
mention the disused GW line at Lydford.
>Being interested in the trains per se is not the
> same as knowing what it is like to travel on them.
I'm not commenting on the boring experience of being on a train, I'm
talking about being in contact with the rural areas we are talking about
via minor roads. Railway lines, like motorways and canals usually take the
line of least resistance through river valleys to avoid the inclines which
they cannot cope with well and/or avoiding expensive cuttings/tunnels.
>I've travelled quite
> a lot in the UK by car. I doubt very much whether or not you could say
> the same about your experience on the railways...
I know where they run and where they don't run, thats is the issue. Its of
no consequence how often I use trains but for the record Ive travelled many
obscure railway lines in the past, sorry if it doesnt fit your stereotype.
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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> i have always been rather interested in railways, more when I was younger.
>> I probably know a lot more about them than you know about driving and
>> visiting rural areas.
>
> I very much doubt it.
You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside. I was looking
at the site of Brunels atmospheric project just the other day, not to
mention the disused GW line at Lydford.
>Being interested in the trains per se is not the
> same as knowing what it is like to travel on them.
I'm not commenting on the boring experience of being on a train, I'm
talking about being in contact with the rural areas we are talking about
via minor roads. Railway lines, like motorways and canals usually take the
line of least resistance through river valleys to avoid the inclines which
they cannot cope with well and/or avoiding expensive cuttings/tunnels.
>I've travelled quite
> a lot in the UK by car. I doubt very much whether or not you could say
> the same about your experience on the railways...
I know where they run and where they don't run, thats is the issue. Its of
no consequence how often I use trains but for the record Ive travelled many
obscure railway lines in the past, sorry if it doesnt fit your stereotype.
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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> i have always been rather interested in railways, more when I was younger.
> >> I probably know a lot more about them than you know about driving and
> >> visiting rural areas.
> >
> > I very much doubt it.
>
> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
thanks.
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onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> i have always been rather interested in railways, more when I was younger.
> >> I probably know a lot more about them than you know about driving and
> >> visiting rural areas.
> >
> > I very much doubt it.
>
> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
thanks.
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
>
> Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> thanks.
Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
>
> Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> thanks.
Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
> >
> > Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> > thanks.
>
> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
problem.
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
> >
> > Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> > thanks.
>
> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
problem.
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
>
> It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> problem.
of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque . From everything you say you
are a city person, nothing wrong with that. However, you say a lot of stuff
about cars which isn't applicable to those whose priorities are elsewhere.
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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
>
> It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> problem.
of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque . From everything you say you
are a city person, nothing wrong with that. However, you say a lot of stuff
about cars which isn't applicable to those whose priorities are elsewhere.
--
"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
> >
> > It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> > problem.
>
> of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
> landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
> honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque .
Even bigger yawn. What a sad twat you make yourself out to be.
<plonk>
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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
> >
> > It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> > problem.
>
> of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
> landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
> honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque .
Even bigger yawn. What a sad twat you make yourself out to be.
<plonk>
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
>> landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
>> honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque .
>
> Even bigger yawn. What a sad twat you make yourself out to be.
I see you can't take the truth.
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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> of course you enjoyed yourself, the *point* was you are not an expert on
>> landscape beauty based on a stroll up a small hill just outside a tourist
>> honeypot hill lovers avoid like the plaque .
>
> Even bigger yawn. What a sad twat you make yourself out to be.
I see you can't take the truth.
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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
[Edinburgh - Manchester]
>>> or a 'challenging' drive across incredible
>>> countryside on incredibly bendy and slow roads.
>> thats the way to go.
> the beauty of rural england is in the villages, byways and moors and
> mountains, not on the motorways or railway lines. I think you have to
> decide if you have the time to enjoy those rural routes
The "scenic route" between Edinburgh and south-west Scotland
via Moffat is the only road in Britain that's made me carsick.
Enjoyment didn't feature very much.
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[Edinburgh - Manchester]
>>> or a 'challenging' drive across incredible
>>> countryside on incredibly bendy and slow roads.
>> thats the way to go.
> the beauty of rural england is in the villages, byways and moors and
> mountains, not on the motorways or railway lines. I think you have to
> decide if you have the time to enjoy those rural routes
The "scenic route" between Edinburgh and south-west Scotland
via Moffat is the only road in Britain that's made me carsick.
Enjoyment didn't feature very much.
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Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
<oloughlin277@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> TIA
If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
Regards
David Bennetts
Australia
<oloughlin277@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> TIA
If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
Regards
David Bennetts
Australia
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > TIA
>
> If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> Regards
>
> David Bennetts
> Australia
I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > TIA
>
> If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> Regards
>
> David Bennetts
> Australia
I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
<oloughlin277@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:d37aa9fc-0250-421f-8e50-f3ca0e9aa253@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > TIA
>
> If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> Regards
>
> David Bennetts
> Australia
I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
Looks as though there are no direct services on Megabus between
Edinburgh/Manchester.
You could do Edinburgh/Glasgow/Manchester. A bit further round, but the
Edinburgh/Glasgow services are very frequent.
Regards
David Bennetts
<oloughlin277@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:d37aa9fc-0250-421f-8e50-f3ca0e9aa253@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > TIA
>
> If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> Regards
>
> David Bennetts
> Australia
I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
Looks as though there are no direct services on Megabus between
Edinburgh/Manchester.
You could do Edinburgh/Glasgow/Manchester. A bit further round, but the
Edinburgh/Glasgow services are very frequent.
Regards
David Bennetts
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
On May 7, 9:52 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:d37aa9fc-0250-421f-8e50-f3ca0e9aa253@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > > TIA
>
> > If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> > Regards
>
> > David Bennetts
> > Australia
>
> I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
> stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
>
> Looks as though there are no direct services on Megabus between
> Edinburgh/Manchester.
> You could do Edinburgh/Glasgow/Manchester. A bit further round, but the
> Edinburgh/Glasgow services are very frequent.
Looks like megabus is the way to go from Edinburgh to Manchester and
then to London. We can rent a car for a day while in London just to
get out of the city. Thanks a lot.
On May 7, 9:52 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
wrote:
> <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:d37aa9fc-0250-421f-8e50-f3ca0e9aa253@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 5, 5:50 pm, "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo,com .au>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <oloughlin...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:7cfaf36c-50d2-4056-8fa8-8620095e144a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > I'll be visiting Scotland and England in a few weeks, starting out in
> > > Edinburgh and finishing in London. Would it be cheaper for my partner
> > > and I to rent a car? Or travel by train? We are planning an over
> > > night in Manchester and would need the car for only four days.
>
> > > TIA
>
> > If you want to travel cheap, see http :// www .megabus,com /uk/
>
> > Regards
>
> > David Bennetts
> > Australia
>
> I tried using this site but can't find Manchester on the list of
> stops. Am I doing something wrong with it?
>
> Looks as though there are no direct services on Megabus between
> Edinburgh/Manchester.
> You could do Edinburgh/Glasgow/Manchester. A bit further round, but the
> Edinburgh/Glasgow services are very frequent.
Looks like megabus is the way to go from Edinburgh to Manchester and
then to London. We can rent a car for a day while in London just to
get out of the city. Thanks a lot.
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
On Thu, 8 May 2008 03:56:25 -0700 (PDT), oloughlin277@gmail,com wrote:
>Looks like megabus is the way to go from Edinburgh to Manchester and
>then to London. We can rent a car for a day while in London just to
>get out of the city. Thanks a lot.
You can get out of the city without renting a car.
--
Martin
On Thu, 8 May 2008 03:56:25 -0700 (PDT), oloughlin277@gmail,com wrote:
>Looks like megabus is the way to go from Edinburgh to Manchester and
>then to London. We can rent a car for a day while in London just to
>get out of the city. Thanks a lot.
You can get out of the city without renting a car.
--
Martin
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 08:08:10 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
> >>
> >> >> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
> >> >
> >> > Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> >> > thanks.
> >>
> >> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
> >
> >It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> >problem.
>
> You don't have a BMW. How many more times do you have to be told?
I've spent only two days in the Lake District, never staying overnight.
I'm not sure exactly what experience I was meant to have. Is there a
certificate you get or something?
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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 08:08:10 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Mike.... <mikeysclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
> >>
> >> >> You dont exhibit great knowledge of the British countryside.
> >> >
> >> > Yawn. I go to the countryside quite a lot. I just don't take a car,
> >> > thanks.
> >>
> >> Really? Your expereince of the Lake district you quoted was highly limited.
> >
> >It was still countryside, and we enjoyed ourselves. I don't see the
> >problem.
>
> You don't have a BMW. How many more times do you have to be told?
I've spent only two days in the Lake District, never staying overnight.
I'm not sure exactly what experience I was meant to have. Is there a
certificate you get or something?
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
Re: Travelling in Scotland and England
Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> You don't have a BMW. How many more times do you have to be told?
>
> I've spent only two days in the Lake District, never staying overnight.
> I'm not sure exactly what experience I was meant to have. Is there a
> certificate you get or something?
you could try visiting it and other mountain areas on a regular basis and
getting to know the people who live there before pontificating on car use,
rather than exchanging pathetic snide comments with twits.
--
"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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Following up to d4g4h4@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>> You don't have a BMW. How many more times do you have to be told?
>
> I've spent only two days in the Lake District, never staying overnight.
> I'm not sure exactly what experience I was meant to have. Is there a
> certificate you get or something?
you could try visiting it and other mountain areas on a regular basis and
getting to know the people who live there before pontificating on car use,
rather than exchanging pathetic snide comments with twits.
--
"Mike....."(not "Mike")
remove clothing to email
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