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Black and white portrait black bg

Reply from: beeo
Date: 06 Feb 2007, 14:42
Black and white portrait black bg

Hi

I would like to have a portrait like this photo
* w w w .danskfotografi.dk/media/billeder/portraetfoto.jpg on my
website. It's black and white, with a black background but how is it
done?
Photoshop?

Tia for any hints or links


Reply from: Randall Ainsworth
Date: 06 Feb 2007, 15:16
Re: Black and white portrait black bg

In article <1170769353.647241.178490@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups . com >,
beeo <beohlsson@gmail . com > wrote:


Well, it's awful portraiture. It's an attempt to recreate the old
character portraits of the 30s, 40s, and early 50s. But it belies the
single light principle. There should only be one main light source.

Reply from: Skinner1@hotmail . com
Date: 07 Feb 2007, 12:23
Re: Black and white portrait black bg

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:16:32 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<rag@nospam.techline . com > wrote:

>In article <1170769353.647241.178490@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups . com >,
>beeo <beohlsson@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>Well, it's awful portraiture. It's an attempt to recreate the old
>character portraits of the 30s, 40s, and early 50s. But it belies the
>single light principle. There should only be one main light source.

Why?

Reply from: Randall Ainsworth
Date: 07 Feb 2007, 13:56
Re: Black and white portrait black bg

In article <jldjs2lkpkaeejjjed9a5vugkirdu8jhtl@4ax . com >,
<Skinner1@hotmail . com > wrote:

> Why?

Because outside we only have one sun, and the practice through the
years has been to somewhat emulate that effect. Now, the photograph
that was linked to could be said to be using accent lighting. Still, it
is not flattering in most cases to use what's called balloon lighting
(as per the linked example).

Reply from: Larry Maupin
Date: 21 Feb 2007, 04:49
Re: Black and white portrait black bg

in article 060220070616325679%rag@nospam.techline . com , Randall Ainsworth at
rag@nospam.techline . com wrote on 2/6/2007 8:16 AM:

> In article <1170769353.647241.178490@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups . com >,
> beeo <beohlsson@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
> Well, it's awful portraiture. It's an attempt to recreate the old
> character portraits of the 30s, 40s, and early 50s. But it belies the
> single light principle. There should only be one main light source.

I agree with Randall - it's not well done but I like the technique. I
learned it in a portrait class several years back. It was described as Clint
Eastwood lighting, invented by him and reportedly he insisted on that
lighting set-up for most of his publicity shots.

The main light is placed behind the subject (usually a male) then a fill
light placed on the opposite side of the subject.

The effect is very dramatic when done well, which was Mr. Eastwood's goal
all along. Obviously anyone employing this technique is not interested in
duplicating the sun's lighting effect.

Larry Maupin
Maupin Photography


Reply from: Karl Winkler
Date: 09 Feb 2007, 19:12
Re: Black and white portrait black bg

On Feb 6, 6:42 am, "beeo" <beohls...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to have a portrait like this photo * w w w .danskfotografi.dk/media/billeder/portraetfoto.jpgon my
> website. It's black and white, with a black background but how is it
> done?
> Photoshop?
>
> Tia for any hints or links

That's not such a great photo, but think I understand what you are
asking. I doubt it was created in photoshop. Basically, the subject is
lit while in a dark room against a dark background. And by controlling
the spill of the lights, the subject is the only thing lit.

I did a self-portrait a few years ago with a similar approach here:

* w w w .karlwinkler . com /Philosophy.html

I used two lights (as did the photographer who did the picture in your
link) one main light to my right, and one spot to my left, above and
behind me (to give definition against the dark background). Part of
the key to this kind of approach is to position the lights and use
specific kinds of light modifiers to A) avoid spill to the background
areas, B) light the subject appropriately and C) give enough edge
definition to separate the subject from the background. One of the
best of this style I've seen done recently was a photo of Mickey
Rourke in Rolling Stone magazine a few years ago.

Hope this helps.

-Karl





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