For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

If I put it on eBay,they'll make me take it down, but I'm not going to
install it. Anyone interested? CD still in shrink wrap.

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Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Donna <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods,com > wrote in
news:Xns9A7F6C2DBF11Bdonnacroakerwoodscom@69.28.186.120:

> If I put it on eBay,they'll make me take it down, but I'm not going to
> install it. Anyone interested? CD still in shrink wrap.
>

I am - if it's still available. I haven't gotten the new one yet.

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Jeannie <jwilson421@comcastspamkills,net > wrote in
news:Xns9A7F6F7E5A17Ejwilson421comcastnet@216.196.97.136:

> I am - if it's still available.

Check your E-mail :)

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Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Donna, I don't buy or trade on eBay, but why would they make you take
this item down? Is Stedman's February 2008 naughty?

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Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Judity <Judity01@aol,com > wrote in news:ee652964-fc32-4f69-901b-
8d1874447aac@q27g2000prf.googlegroups,com :

> Donna, I don't buy or trade on eBay, but why would they make you take
> this item down? Is Stedman's February 2008 naughty?

They just don't like you selling their software. I tried a year or so ago
with some that I hadn't used and they took it down, so I'm not even going
to try this time. It's not like I opened it or activated the license. I
don't know. They're very protective, I guess. As a side note, this is the
software I bought when their stuff was compromised and we got charges on
our credit card from who knows who.

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Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

I don't understand HOW Stedman's can take anything off e-bay??? I can see
why they would not WANT it sold on e-bay (obviously they want someone to buy
it from them), but I suppose that would be true of any company. Do they
contact e-bay and force them to take it off? If they can do that, then I
would think Microsoft, etc, could do the same. I don't get it.

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"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9A7F7CD3B9D68donnacroakerwoodscom@69.28.186.120...
> Judity <Judity01@aol,com > wrote in news:ee652964-fc32-4f69-901b-
> 8d1874447aac@q27g2000prf.googlegroups,com :
>
>> Donna, I don't buy or trade on eBay, but why would they make you take
>> this item down? Is Stedman's February 2008 naughty?
>
> They just don't like you selling their software. I tried a year or so ago
> with some that I hadn't used and they took it down, so I'm not even going
> to try this time. It's not like I opened it or activated the license. I
> don't know. They're very protective, I guess. As a side note, this is the
> software I bought when their stuff was compromised and we got charges on
> our credit card from who knows who.
>
> --
> ~Donna
> http :// www ,fr ugalsewing,com
> Reduce, reuse, recycle, re-create.

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Yes, they can claim that the seller is not legally allowed to sell it,
and if it's their product, Ebay does what they say. If the software was
sold as part of the paper dictionary, the licensing agreement may state
that it cannot be sold separately.

I doubt the computer magazines would be happy with people selling the
CDs of commercial software that is offered free to the subscribers by
some special deal, also.

And I believe M$ was the entity that made all the OEM software sellers
include qualifying hardware to be able to sell OEM software.

Kathycarp wrote:
> I don't understand HOW Stedman's can take anything off e-bay??? I can see
> why they would not WANT it sold on e-bay (obviously they want someone to buy
> it from them), but I suppose that would be true of any company. Do they
> contact e-bay and force them to take it off? If they can do that, then I
> would think Microsoft, etc, could do the same. I don't get it.

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

But if you bought it from Stedman's, paid the price, and it's still in the
shrinkwrap...

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"Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply" <fleetoffinger@TRASHyahoo,com >
wrote in message news:4802d2f8$0$84244$742ec2ed@news.sonic,net ...
> Yes, they can claim that the seller is not legally allowed to sell it, and
> if it's their product, Ebay does what they say. If the software was sold
> as part of the paper dictionary, the licensing agreement may state that it
> cannot be sold separately.
>
> I doubt the computer magazines would be happy with people selling the CDs
> of commercial software that is offered free to the subscribers by some
> special deal, also.
>
> And I believe M$ was the entity that made all the OEM software sellers
> include qualifying hardware to be able to sell OEM software.
>
> Kathycarp wrote:
>> I don't understand HOW Stedman's can take anything off e-bay??? I can see
>> why they would not WANT it sold on e-bay (obviously they want someone to
>> buy it from them), but I suppose that would be true of any company. Do
>> they contact e-bay and force them to take it off? If they can do that,
>> then I would think Microsoft, etc, could do the same. I don't get it.
>

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Kathycarp wrote:
> But if you bought it from Stedman's, paid the price, and it's still in the
> shrinkwrap...

Okay -- keep in mind here that I have no idea what, exactly, Donna was
offering, so I am not trying to say anything about her.

If you purchased it brand new as a standalone product, never opened it,
decided you did not want it, and were selling it, and if you clearly
stated that in your Ebay auction, Stedman's probably would have no
grounds to block the auction.

OTOH, I bought a Dorland's dictionary a couple of years back partly
because it came with a spell checker, and I am pretty confident that
Dorland's would not want me to sell the spell checker and keep the
dictionary. Besides, which, the dictionary was shrink-wrapped, and the
spell checker software was permanently sealed into the dictionary, so I
would have no way of verifying that I had not opened it myself if I was
going to sell it.

I don't know if Stedman's does the same thing that Dorland's does.

I do know that this home-schooling software Switched-On Schoolhouse used
to allow you to sell or give your software (which was a complete
curriculum) away when you were finished with it, then when home
schoolers had done all their beta testing and helped Alpha Omega work
through all the problems in the software and they were ready to relase a
Version 2 marketing it primarily to Christian schools and also a secular
version for other private schools, all of a sudden they decided that
nobody could sell it when they were done with it, not even the people
with the license agreements that specifically stated that you could
resell it. They kept an eye out for every Ebay auction where someone
was selling any year's edition of SOS and told Ebay that they did not
allow anybody to sell SOS, and Ebay dutifully cancelled every single
auction they pointed out to them, no questions asked. I can understand
that they wanted to avoid having a school purchase one copy of one grade
and priate it for a whole class of 30 students, but they really spit in
the faces of the home schoolers who had done all their dirty work for
them. (They also quit working with people who were buying in bulk and
reselling to homeschoolers.) I went around and around with this one
person stating that their supposed reasons for doing this were really
bogus and that there were easier ways to solve their supposed problems
than what they were doing, but they didn't want to listen to anybody.
It was really sad.

(I only wish Ebay were as conscientious about the scammy auctions that
people run, but alas....)

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Okay -- keep in mind here that I have no idea what, exactly, Donna was
offering, so I am not trying to say anything about her.
-----

OK. I thought Donna was pretty clear that she bought it recently, never
opened, and never registered the license (and then decided to retire!) But
maybe I misunderstood.

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"Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply" <fleetoffinger@TRASHyahoo,com >
wrote in message news:4802fa65$0$84177$742ec2ed@news.sonic,net ...
> Kathycarp wrote:
>> But if you bought it from Stedman's, paid the price, and it's still in
>> the shrinkwrap...
>
> Okay -- keep in mind here that I have no idea what, exactly, Donna was
> offering, so I am not trying to say anything about her.
>
> If you purchased it brand new as a standalone product, never opened it,
> decided you did not want it, and were selling it, and if you clearly
> stated that in your Ebay auction, Stedman's probably would have no grounds
> to block the auction.
>
> OTOH, I bought a Dorland's dictionary a couple of years back partly
> because it came with a spell checker, and I am pretty confident that
> Dorland's would not want me to sell the spell checker and keep the
> dictionary. Besides, which, the dictionary was shrink-wrapped, and the
> spell checker software was permanently sealed into the dictionary, so I
> would have no way of verifying that I had not opened it myself if I was
> going to sell it.
>
> I don't know if Stedman's does the same thing that Dorland's does.
>
> I do know that this home-schooling software Switched-On Schoolhouse used
> to allow you to sell or give your software (which was a complete
> curriculum) away when you were finished with it, then when home schoolers
> had done all their beta testing and helped Alpha Omega work through all
> the problems in the software and they were ready to relase a Version 2
> marketing it primarily to Christian schools and also a secular version for
> other private schools, all of a sudden they decided that nobody could sell
> it when they were done with it, not even the people with the license
> agreements that specifically stated that you could resell it. They kept
> an eye out for every Ebay auction where someone was selling any year's
> edition of SOS and told Ebay that they did not allow anybody to sell SOS,
> and Ebay dutifully cancelled every single auction they pointed out to
> them, no questions asked. I can understand that they wanted to avoid
> having a school purchase one copy of one grade and priate it for a whole
> class of 30 students, but they really spit in the faces of the home
> schoolers who had done all their dirty work for them. (They also quit
> working with people who were buying in bulk and reselling to
> homeschoolers.) I went around and around with this one person stating
> that their supposed reasons for doing this were really bogus and that
> there were easier ways to solve their supposed problems than what they
> were doing, but they didn't want to listen to anybody. It was really sad.
>
> (I only wish Ebay were as conscientious about the scammy auctions that
> people run, but alas....)

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Kathycarp wrote:
>
> OK. I thought Donna was pretty clear that she bought it recently, never
> opened, and never registered the license (and then decided to retire!) But
> maybe I misunderstood.

You probably did understand. I've been pretty stressed these past few
weeks with things going wrong everywhere (so much so that NOBODY around
here is getting called by the correct name), and the only reason I said
anything is because I know that my Dorland's speller came as part of the
dictionary.

Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

"Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@comc@st,net > wrote in
news:BdidnZV1z9Ks5p7VnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast,com :

> OK. I thought Donna was pretty clear that she bought it recently,
> never opened, and never registered the license (and then decided to
> retire!) But maybe I misunderstood.
>

It no longer belongs to me, so it's moot ;) One of my fave peoples from
here asked for it and that's what I was hoping. I knew someone could use
it.


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Re: For Sale: Stedman's February 2008

Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply <fleetoffinger@TRASHyahoo,com >
wrote in news:4802d2f8$0$84244$742ec2ed@news.sonic,net :

>
> And I believe M$ was the entity that made all the OEM software sellers
> include qualifying hardware to be able to sell OEM software.

I got XP on eBay and it came with a chip of a computer :)

I had listed a glass one time that had Absolut Vodka on it. eBay took it
down. Disney has certain rules about selling on eBay. It's just the way it
is. I just got an E-mail from a seller. I bought a magazine subscription
from them and eBay took down their listing. I had already paid and the
seller wrote to me and told me they'd send it anyway, but they're screwed
as far as selling further subscriptions on eBay.

Tis the breaks.

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