Controversial Obama article

Controversial Obama article


It seems inevitable that Obama will be the Dem nominee. Could the
article below be a GOP hatchet job, or the Hillary camp's last salvo?

http :// tinyurl,com /45obfd

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Barack Obama --- Muslim Apostate?

By Shireen K. Burki
-Mon May 19, 4:00 AM ET-


Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house.
After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al Qaeda the ultimate
propaganda tool: President Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim apostate.


The fact that Senator Obama


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Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. I'm sure that to most Muslims,
Obama is a Christian, case closed.

Gisele


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The rumor about Senator Barack Obama being a Muslim has been around
now for months. Who knows who started it or even cares? What has
that to do with the issues that effect all of us?

I honestly don't care what a person's religion is as long as we get an
honest person running our country. Well, I guess that rules out
Senator Shrillary Clinton, doesn't it?

Judity

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Judity Wrote:
> The rumor about Senator Barack Obama being a Muslim has been around now
> for months. Who knows who started it or even cares? What has that to
> do with the issues that effect all of us?
>
> I honestly don't care what a person's religion is as long as we get an
> honest person running our country. Well, I guess that rules out
> Senator Shrillary Clinton, doesn't it?
> Judity
According to that writer, muslims believe that if your father is a
muslim, you are a muslim even if your mother is not. Apparently in the
eyes of muslims, Obama is an apostate. Al-quaeda may very well use it as
propaganda to rally other muslims against us. If Obama becomes
president, it may or may not be a sticky issue with muslim countries in
the middle east, since they will be dealing with a supposed "apostate"
per their beliefs. It could be a foreign affairs sticking point, if the
article is in fact true.

IMHO, there is NO "honest" modern-day politician. Politicians have to
make compromises even if it is against their own beliefs. Sometimes,
they may have to make a deal with the devil to advance the country's
interests and agenda. Sadam Hussein was our best friend when he waged a
bloody war against Iran. We armed the mujahedin (including Bin Laden)
against the Russians in Afganistan.

We don't need a corrupt politician that's for sure, but an "honest"
politician??

I'm an independent and a fence-sitter. At this point, I'm not totally
convinced about Obama as a potential leader of the free world. I don't
like the notion of electing a trainee for president especially during
these dangerous times. Perhaps I will make up my mind a week before the
presidential elections or after a couple of McCain-Obama debates.


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I never thought he was a Muslim because of his name, but really, I just
never thought about it. Still chuckling over Hillary saying he wasn't a
Muslim "as far as she knew," as though she was being very generous about
it. Hah!

Gisele


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mountain wrote:
> It seems inevitable that Obama will be the Dem nominee. Could the
> article below be a GOP hatchet job, or the Hillary camp's last salvo?
>
> http :// tinyurl,com /45obfd
>

The GOP doesn't need to do a hatchet job on Obama and Clinton - they're
doing a fine job on each other.

Marsha/Ohio

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Marsha Wrote:
>
> The GOP doesn't need to do a hatchet job on Obama and Clinton - they're
> doing a fine job on each other.
> Marsha/Ohio

That's true too ....


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I can't argue with you about that, but you know the GOP will take their
whacks as well.

Anne

"Marsha" <mas@xeb,net > wrote in message news:g0t2gt$e14$1@news.datemas.de...
> The GOP doesn't need to do a hatchet job on Obama and Clinton - they're
> doing a fine job on each other.
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>

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And it doesn't matter if we believe he is a Muslim or Christian. It is what
extremist Muslims think that is going to make or break us. If they beleive
he is an apostate, and want to kill him, there isn't anything we can do
about it. All the Secret Service protection in the world can't keep someone
from killing another if they truly want to. If they choose not to kill him,
but use his apostasy instead, we're still in for a rough ride.

"Marsha" <mas@xeb,net > wrote in message news:g0t2gt$e14$1@news.datemas.de...
> mountain wrote:
>> It seems inevitable that Obama will be the Dem nominee. Could the
>> article below be a GOP hatchet job, or the Hillary camp's last salvo?
>>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /45obfd
>>
>
> The GOP doesn't need to do a hatchet job on Obama and Clinton - they're
> doing a fine job on each other.
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>

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> And it doesn't matter if we believe he is a Muslim or Christian. It is
> what
> extremist Muslims think that is going to make or break us. If they
> beleive
> he is an apostate, and want to kill him, there isn't anything we can do
> about it. All the Secret Service protection in the world can't keep
> someone
> from killing another if they truly want to. If they choose not to kill
> him,
> but use his apostasy instead, we're still in for a rough ride.
> Nonsense.

Gisele


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Do any of you really think Islamic terrorists need to use Senator
Barack Obama's religion to attack us? Do you think all Muslims are the
enemy of our country? There are radicals in most religions, at least
from what I've read.

Personally, I'm not in favor of any religion that treats females as
second-class or chattel or simple baby breeders. That included some
Christian denominations such as the Texas FLDS in the news so much
lately. In the Catholic religion, are women now being ordained as
priests, bishops, or cardinals? If not, why not?

I'm not a feminist by any means, but I get disgusted with organized
religions whenever I see only men bowing down on mats, only men
wearing red robes and hats in another religion, and women made to wear
clothing that covers everything but their eyes or what is known as a
prairie gown.

The following article explains the position of women in religion much
better than I can.

http :// www .ffrf.org/nontracts/women.php

Judity

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Phyllis Nilsson Wrote:
> If they choose not to kill him,
> but use his apostasy instead, we're still in for a rough ride.
>
IMHO, Phyllis has a point. If Obama gets elected, there is a strong
possibility that enemies will use any angle (including his apostasy) to
hype their people with this seemingly twisted logic. I'm not just
referring to the usual suspects like Al-quaeda. I'm also referring to
the GOP right wingers. Remember the "swift boat" TV ads that helped sink
John Kerry's presidential ambitions?

The Obama supporters in this forum may feel this is a non-issue, but
taking in consideration that foreign policy is the most glaring hole in
Obama's resume (among other things), then this could present a problem
for him later.


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mountain Wrote:
> IMHO, Phyllis has a point. If Obama gets elected, there is a strong
> possibility that enemies will use any angle (including his apostasy) to
> hype their people with this seemingly twisted logic. I'm not just
> referring to the usual suspects like Al-quaeda. I'm also referring to
> the GOP right wingers. Remember the "swift boat" TV ads that helped sink
> John Kerry's presidential ambitions?
>
> The Obama supporters in this forum may feel this is a non-issue, but
> taking in consideration that foreign policy is the most glaring hole in
> Obama's resume (among other things), then this could present a problem
> for him later.

Addendum/correction:

"If Obama is nominated (and/or gets elected)"


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((The Obama supporters in this forum may feel this is a non-issue,
but
taking in consideration that foreign policy is the most glaring hole
in
Obama's resume (among other things), then this could present a
problem
for him later. ))

Mountain, I'm not a Senator Obama supporter any more than I'm a
Senator McCain supporter, just strongly against the Clintons. However,
I feel it's a sad commentary on people when they bring a person's
religion into whether or not they'd make a good President. I think
back to the controversy of John Kennedy being a Catholic and if the
Pope would interfere in the running of our country. Any of you
remember that? How about more recently with Romney being a Mormon and
if that would influence him?

I'm not sure that Senator Obama's lack of foreign policy background is
bad since there are always people around the President to inform and
guide. Senator McCain may have a background in this area, but do you
agree with everything he has done or says he will do?

My more immediate concern, the same as most people living on a fixed
income, is how our new President would handle the economy. To be
honest about it, I wonder how any of the candidates will do since all
are wealthy and don't feel the pinch of everyday prices. When was the
last time any of them filled up at a gas station or went grocery
shopping? Do they even know what the prices are? I doubt it!

The three of them can give us blue-sky promises all they want, but how
realistic are these promises? As I've previously stated, I'm a news
junkie and every day listen to all of them tell us what they will do
for us once elected President. I've been faithfully voting since I was
old enough and know how politicians' campaign promises are simply
smoke and mirrors to get us to vote for them.

With the Internet at our fingertips, I wonder what excuses the next
President, whether Democrat or Republican, will have for all those
broken campaign promises? I love our country and think we deserve
better than the choices we are being offered this year. Oh wait! Ron
Paul is still on the ticket, isn't he?

Judity

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:15:32 +0000, mountain
<mountain.39pvk3@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote:

>
>Phyllis Nilsson Wrote:
>> If they choose not to kill him,
>> but use his apostasy instead, we're still in for a rough ride.
>>
>IMHO, Phyllis has a point. If Obama gets elected, there is a strong
>possibility that enemies will use any angle (including his apostasy) to
>hype their people with this seemingly twisted logic. I'm not just
>referring to the usual suspects like Al-quaeda. I'm also referring to
>the GOP right wingers. Remember the "swift boat" TV ads that helped sink
>John Kerry's presidential ambitions?
>
>The Obama supporters in this forum may feel this is a non-issue, but
>taking in consideration that foreign policy is the most glaring hole in
>Obama's resume (among other things), then this could present a problem
>for him later.

Well, it's actually false. Obama's father was not a Muslim (he had
left the religion) before he married, Obama's mother did not convert,
and since his father gave up all claims to him, under Islam's own
rules, it means that Obama was *never* a Muslim.

It's just another example of the intellectually shoddy reasoning used
by some commentators.