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Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

Reply from: Kathycarp
Date: 02 Apr 2008, 21:50
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

No different than if they
stopped every blonde or brunnette on some nebuluous excuse.
------

Not wanting to get off the real subject here, but one time my daughter and I
were coming home after a basketball game at the high school and I was
stopped. Have no clue why. He said, "um, you were weaving." (not very
convincingly) (and I wasn't). There were 2 of them, and one was at
daughter's window and one at mine, shining lights into the car. I think they
were just bored and thought they'd see who was in the car. When they saw it
was mother and daughter, and not "2 daughters" they lost interest. ha.

--
Kathy
www .ambergriscaye,com /villadelsol
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill.3798rk@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote in
message news:RaeMorrill.3798rk@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au...
>
> I don't know about every police department everywhere, but it happens
> here. An MT and friend of mine in my same town is married to a black man
> (African born). He worked a late shift at a company in Portland. Many
> times he was stopped on his way home for no reason (no citations at
> least most of the times). She finally got fed up and wrote to Mike
> Chitwood, the COP in Portland at the time. She'd say if he told her she
> was speeding, she'd say, "I'm not black" just kidding with him. But, it
> really isn't funny to think that happens. No different than if they
> stopped every blonde or brunnette on some nebuluous excuse.
>
> There was an article in a recent Reader's Digest on towns that
> basically still try to keep blacks out.
>
>
> --
> RaeMorrill
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> View this thread: http :// www .scribera.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6563
>



Reply from: Anne V.
Date: 02 Apr 2008, 21:53
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

Sounds like the time I got stopped in Arizona because they "couldn't read my
license plate." Huh? It was broad daylight on a sunny day, and the license
plate wasn't dirty. All I could figure was that either they fed me a line
of BS or the cop needed to get glasses. <G>

Anne

"Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@comc@st,net > wrote in message
news:td6dnWrrvfnjfm7anZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast,com ...
>> Not wanting to get off the real subject here, but one time my daughter
>> and I
> were coming home after a basketball game at the high school and I was
> stopped. Have no clue why. He said, "um, you were weaving." (not very
> convincingly) (and I wasn't). There were 2 of them, and one was at
> daughter's window and one at mine, shining lights into the car. I think
> they were just bored and thought they'd see who was in the car. When they
> saw it was mother and daughter, and not "2 daughters" they lost interest.
> ha.
>
> --
> Kathy
> www .ambergriscaye,com /villadelsol



Reply from: Sue
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 01:05
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair and
a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead of
me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and stopped
me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he was
and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who lived
where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed. Said if
he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not allowed
to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to find
out who I was and if I was single.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@comc@st,net > wrote in message
news:td6dnWrrvfnjfm7anZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast,com ...
> No different than if they
> stopped every blonde or brunnette on some nebuluous excuse.
> ------
>
> Not wanting to get off the real subject here, but one time my daughter and
> I were coming home after a basketball game at the high school and I was
> stopped. Have no clue why. He said, "um, you were weaving." (not very
> convincingly) (and I wasn't). There were 2 of them, and one was at
> daughter's window and one at mine, shining lights into the car. I think
> they were just bored and thought they'd see who was in the car. When they
> saw it was mother and daughter, and not "2 daughters" they lost interest.
> ha.
>
> --
> Kathy
> www .ambergriscaye,com /villadelsol
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill.3798rk@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote in
> message news:RaeMorrill.3798rk@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au...
>>
>> I don't know about every police department everywhere, but it happens
>> here. An MT and friend of mine in my same town is married to a black man
>> (African born). He worked a late shift at a company in Portland. Many
>> times he was stopped on his way home for no reason (no citations at
>> least most of the times). She finally got fed up and wrote to Mike
>> Chitwood, the COP in Portland at the time. She'd say if he told her she
>> was speeding, she'd say, "I'm not black" just kidding with him. But, it
>> really isn't funny to think that happens. No different than if they
>> stopped every blonde or brunnette on some nebuluous excuse.
>>
>> There was an article in a recent Reader's Digest on towns that
>> basically still try to keep blacks out.
>>
>>
>> --
>> RaeMorrill
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> RaeMorrill's Profile: http :// www .scribera.org/forum/member.php?userid=982
>> View this thread: http :// www .scribera.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6563
>>
>
>



Reply from: Chris
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 01:50
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

On Apr 2, 7:05=EF=BF=BDpm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair an=
d
> a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead of=

> me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and stopped
> me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he was
> and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
> license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who lived=

> where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
> worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed. Said =
if
> he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not allow=
ed
> to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to find
> out who I was and if I was single.
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@c=
...@st,net > wrote in message
>



Here, that "third-degree" is actually a series of questions they are
trained to ask, and you can actually raise suspicions based on your
answers. If you do, then they go further. Where do you live? Where are
you coming from? Where are you heading? Who's your passenger? How do
you know each other? Who are you visiting? Is your address current?
Many drug transporters are caught this very way on high trafficking
routes. When out of state, they can actually ask for money (forget
what it is called) in lieu of taking your license too. That shocks the
crap out of a lot of people. lol. They are also allowed to "pace" cars
to determine speed, but it is not as enforcable in court as the radar.
They also know how common it is for people to let their address
changes slip on the license, so that is why they ask that by the way.

Reply from: Sue
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 04:10
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

No the big shock was him asking who was living in the rented house we no
longer lived in. I did happen to know but how many people do? That pissed me
off and went too far in my book (it was 1972 as well not post 9/11 need to
know your blood type).

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Chris" <chrissypete2@aol,com > wrote in message
news:e0448e33-c720-4ee6-9a04-2304df038710@m71g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 2, 7:05?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair
> and
> a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead of
> me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and stopped
> me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he was
> and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
> license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who lived
> where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
> worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed. Said
> if
> he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not
> allowed
> to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to find
> out who I was and if I was single.
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Kathycarp"
> <k@thyc@rp@c...@st,net > wrote in message
>



Here, that "third-degree" is actually a series of questions they are
trained to ask, and you can actually raise suspicions based on your
answers. If you do, then they go further. Where do you live? Where are
you coming from? Where are you heading? Who's your passenger? How do
you know each other? Who are you visiting? Is your address current?
Many drug transporters are caught this very way on high trafficking
routes. When out of state, they can actually ask for money (forget
what it is called) in lieu of taking your license too. That shocks the
crap out of a lot of people. lol. They are also allowed to "pace" cars
to determine speed, but it is not as enforcable in court as the radar.
They also know how common it is for people to let their address
changes slip on the license, so that is why they ask that by the way.



Reply from: Chris
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 05:53
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

On Apr 2, 10:10=EF=BF=BDpm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> No the big shock was him asking who was living in the rented house we no
> longer lived in. I did happen to know but how many people do? That pissed =
me
> off and went too far in my book (it was 1972 as well not post 9/11 need to=

> know your blood type).
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Chris" <chrissype...@ao=
l,com > wrote in message
>
> news:e0448e33-c720-4ee6-9a04-2304df038710@m71g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 2, 7:05?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair
> > and
> > a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead =
of
> > me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and stoppe=
d
> > me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he wa=
s
> > and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
> > license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who liv=
ed
> > where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
> > worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed. Sai=
d
> > if
> > he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not
> > allowed
> > to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to fin=
d
> > out who I was and if I was single.
>
> > --
> > Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Kathycarp"
> > <k@thyc@rp@c...@st,net > wrote in message
>
> Here, that "third-degree" is actually a series of questions they are
> trained to ask, and you can actually raise suspicions based on your
> answers. If you do, then they go further. Where do you live? Where are
> you coming from? Where are you heading? Who's your passenger? How do
> you know each other? Who are you visiting? Is your address current?
> Many drug transporters are caught this very way on high trafficking
> routes. When out of state, they can actually ask for money (forget
> what it is called) in lieu of taking your license too. That shocks the
> crap out of a lot of people. lol. They are also allowed to "pace" cars
> to determine speed, but it is not as enforcable in court as the radar.
> They also know how common it is for people to let their address
> changes slip on the license, so that is why they ask that by the way.- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


DH says that you should consider yourself lucky because it is a civil
infraction not to have the correct address on your license. So when
that happened, he probably gave a couple of questions a shot and gave
you the benefit of the doubt that you had just not gotten around to it
yet. That civil infraction, and your answer to same (not to say that
you didn't know would have provoked a different outcome), combined
with a few other things, such as a lot of air fresheners in your car,
no proof of insurance, you haven't signed your registration, etc.
(many others), can be assessed together as a reason for suspicion to
justify a search of your car -- to find out who they are dealing with.
It can also simply really only be a question pulled out of the air
just to be a question to provoke an answer--to get a person talking as
much as possible to find out if you've been drinking too, the more
talkin' a drinker does, the more a drinker gives themselves away. lol.
Also, he's pretty certain this practice was widely in place in the
70's and it has nothing to do with 9/11. There have been unlawful
drivers for eons.

I'm not saying there aren't cops out there who do pull over good-
looking blondes. Heck, some even proposition women, I'm just saying
this is sort of a parallel comparison as to how something can be
misconstrued or misunderstood, and it most definitely feeds the fire
on the "I hate cops/Ain't they got anything better to do/He was
picking on me" mentality. I was admittedly one of those. LOL.

Reply from: Sue
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 07:08
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

We had been out of the old address a total of two days, I was going to do it
that Saturday my day off. You have a timeframe to get it done and it is not
an infraction until you have an address to put on your license -- at least
it wasn't then. You had 30 days.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Chris" <chrissypete2@aol,com > wrote in message
news:8c5789fb-8c1c-4552-aa31-841b3993e2e7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 2, 10:10?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> No the big shock was him asking who was living in the rented house we no
> longer lived in. I did happen to know but how many people do? That pissed
> me
> off and went too far in my book (it was 1972 as well not post 9/11 need to
> know your blood type).
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Chris"
> <chrissype...@aol,com > wrote in message
>
> news:e0448e33-c720-4ee6-9a04-2304df038710@m71g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 2, 7:05?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair
> > and
> > a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead
> > of
> > me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and
> > stopped
> > me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he
> > was
> > and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
> > license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who
> > lived
> > where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
> > worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed.
> > Said
> > if
> > he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not
> > allowed
> > to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to
> > find
> > out who I was and if I was single.
>
> > --
> > Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Kathycarp"
> > <k@thyc@rp@c...@st,net > wrote in message
>
> Here, that "third-degree" is actually a series of questions they are
> trained to ask, and you can actually raise suspicions based on your
> answers. If you do, then they go further. Where do you live? Where are
> you coming from? Where are you heading? Who's your passenger? How do
> you know each other? Who are you visiting? Is your address current?
> Many drug transporters are caught this very way on high trafficking
> routes. When out of state, they can actually ask for money (forget
> what it is called) in lieu of taking your license too. That shocks the
> crap out of a lot of people. lol. They are also allowed to "pace" cars
> to determine speed, but it is not as enforcable in court as the radar.
> They also know how common it is for people to let their address
> changes slip on the license, so that is why they ask that by the way.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


DH says that you should consider yourself lucky because it is a civil
infraction not to have the correct address on your license. So when
that happened, he probably gave a couple of questions a shot and gave
you the benefit of the doubt that you had just not gotten around to it
yet. That civil infraction, and your answer to same (not to say that
you didn't know would have provoked a different outcome), combined
with a few other things, such as a lot of air fresheners in your car,
no proof of insurance, you haven't signed your registration, etc.
(many others), can be assessed together as a reason for suspicion to
justify a search of your car -- to find out who they are dealing with.
It can also simply really only be a question pulled out of the air
just to be a question to provoke an answer--to get a person talking as
much as possible to find out if you've been drinking too, the more
talkin' a drinker does, the more a drinker gives themselves away. lol.
Also, he's pretty certain this practice was widely in place in the
70's and it has nothing to do with 9/11. There have been unlawful
drivers for eons.

I'm not saying there aren't cops out there who do pull over good-
looking blondes. Heck, some even proposition women, I'm just saying
this is sort of a parallel comparison as to how something can be
misconstrued or misunderstood, and it most definitely feeds the fire
on the "I hate cops/Ain't they got anything better to do/He was
picking on me" mentality. I was admittedly one of those. LOL.



Reply from: Chris
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 17:31
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

On Apr 3, 1:08=EF=BF=BDam, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> We had been out of the old address a total of two days, I was going to do =
it
> that Saturday my day off. You have a timeframe to get it done and it is no=
t
> an infraction until you have an address to put on your license -- at least=

> it wasn't then. You had 30 days.
>
> --

So if it is true that you had 30 days, how else would he find out how
long it was since you had moved? You know how many times they've
probably heard "I 'just' moved."? You can actually get your license
suspended for failure to change addresses. I already explained how
they are trained to get you talking. Unless you don't know where you
are moving, you have an address to put on there too, and venture a
guess that the cop asked you for your new address too, which would
probably be more scary to a young, single, woman, than giving her old
address. Even today you can make the change online, etc., which in
turn means you are waiting some period of time before the change
sticker even reaches you, but the address is current faster when they
run your license. I see it is 10 days in New York, but immediately
here in Michigan. Of course, there aren't many cops who are going to
write a ticket provided you aren't suspicious, but the point is it
raises suspicion, per their training, prompting questions. I can
quickly locate Acts dating as far back as 1949 pertaining to reasons
why an incorrect address can equate to falsification of information
provided on the actual license to begin with - there is a bigger
picture here other than the fact that you did just happen to move, and
there has been since 1949 apparently.


Reply from: Sue
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 19:36
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

I said this was 1972.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!
"Chris" <chrissypete2@aol,com > wrote in message
news:d34b60c4-fd6e-4072-aa78-c30026990229@m36g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 3, 1:08?am, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> We had been out of the old address a total of two days, I was going to do
> it
> that Saturday my day off. You have a timeframe to get it done and it is
> not
> an infraction until you have an address to put on your license -- at least
> it wasn't then. You had 30 days.
>
> --

So if it is true that you had 30 days, how else would he find out how
long it was since you had moved? You know how many times they've
probably heard "I 'just' moved."? You can actually get your license
suspended for failure to change addresses. I already explained how
they are trained to get you talking. Unless you don't know where you
are moving, you have an address to put on there too, and venture a
guess that the cop asked you for your new address too, which would
probably be more scary to a young, single, woman, than giving her old
address. Even today you can make the change online, etc., which in
turn means you are waiting some period of time before the change
sticker even reaches you, but the address is current faster when they
run your license. I see it is 10 days in New York, but immediately
here in Michigan. Of course, there aren't many cops who are going to
write a ticket provided you aren't suspicious, but the point is it
raises suspicion, per their training, prompting questions. I can
quickly locate Acts dating as far back as 1949 pertaining to reasons
why an incorrect address can equate to falsification of information
provided on the actual license to begin with - there is a bigger
picture here other than the fact that you did just happen to move, and
there has been since 1949 apparently.



Reply from: Chris
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 20:06
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

On Apr 3, 1:36=EF=BF=BDpm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> I said this was 1972.
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Chris" <chrissype...@ao=
l,com > wrote in message
>
> news:d34b60c4-fd6e-4072-aa78-c30026990229@m36g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 3, 1:08?am, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
>
> > We had been out of the old address a total of two days, I was going to d=
o
> > it
> > that Saturday my day off. You have a timeframe to get it done and it is
> > not
> > an infraction until you have an address to put on your license -- at lea=
st
> > it wasn't then. You had 30 days.
>
> > --
>
> So if it is true that you had 30 days, how else would he find out how
> long it was since you had moved? You know how many times they've
> probably heard "I 'just' moved."? You can actually get your license
> suspended for failure to change addresses. I already explained how
> they are trained to get you talking. Unless you don't know where you
> are moving, you have an address to put on there too, and venture a
> guess that the cop asked you for your new address too, which would
> probably be more scary to a young, single, woman, than giving her old
> address. Even today you can make the change online, etc., which in
> turn means you are waiting some period of time before the change
> sticker even reaches you, but the address is current faster when they
> run your license. I see it is 10 days in New York, but immediately
> here in Michigan. Of course, there aren't many cops who are going to
> write a ticket provided you aren't suspicious, but the point is it
> raises suspicion, per their training, prompting questions. I can
> quickly locate Acts dating as far back as 1949 pertaining to reasons
> why an incorrect address can equate to falsification of information
> provided on the actual license to begin with - there is a bigger
> picture here other than the fact that you did just happen to move, and
> there has been since 1949 apparently.

I know, and I'm pointing out that there have been references to
correct addresses/fraudulent addresses on licenses in the motor
vehicle laws since at least 1949 from what I can find.

Reply from: Kathycarp
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 19:34
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

I'm not saying there aren't cops out there who do pull over good-
looking blondes.
-------
Good. Because I know one who admits it. He also admits to not giving tickets
to good looking girls when they deserve one.

--
Kathy
www .ambergriscaye,com /villadelsol
"Chris" <chrissypete2@aol,com > wrote in message
news:8c5789fb-8c1c-4552-aa31-841b3993e2e7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 2, 10:10?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
> No the big shock was him asking who was living in the rented house we no
> longer lived in. I did happen to know but how many people do? That pissed
> me
> off and went too far in my book (it was 1972 as well not post 9/11 need to
> know your blood type).
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Chris"
> <chrissype...@aol,com > wrote in message
>
> news:e0448e33-c720-4ee6-9a04-2304df038710@m71g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 2, 7:05?pm, "Sue" <medlawtr...@comcast,net > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That happened to me when I was younger, thinner and had long blond hair
> > and
> > a my Fiat spider. I was driving a long beside the cop and he went ahead
> > of
> > me real fast, slowed down, got behind me turned on his lights and
> > stopped
> > me. Said I was speeding (I was not) -- Said he knew he was because he
> > was
> > and I was keeping up with him. He wanted to know if my address on the
> > license was current (it wasn't we had just moved) wanted to know who
> > lived
> > where I'd just left -- real 3rd degree -- I was so pissed. No ticket. I
> > worked at a law office and one of the young attorneys was SO pissed.
> > Said
> > if
> > he had given me a ticket he would have been in trouble (they are not
> > allowed
> > to speed for no reason) etc. lots of stuff and said I was stopped to
> > find
> > out who I was and if I was single.
>
> > --
> > Sue -- Firefighter mom -- still rabid UW DAWG fan!"Kathycarp"
> > <k@thyc@rp@c...@st,net > wrote in message
>
> Here, that "third-degree" is actually a series of questions they are
> trained to ask, and you can actually raise suspicions based on your
> answers. If you do, then they go further. Where do you live? Where are
> you coming from? Where are you heading? Who's your passenger? How do
> you know each other? Who are you visiting? Is your address current?
> Many drug transporters are caught this very way on high trafficking
> routes. When out of state, they can actually ask for money (forget
> what it is called) in lieu of taking your license too. That shocks the
> crap out of a lot of people. lol. They are also allowed to "pace" cars
> to determine speed, but it is not as enforcable in court as the radar.
> They also know how common it is for people to let their address
> changes slip on the license, so that is why they ask that by the way.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


DH says that you should consider yourself lucky because it is a civil
infraction not to have the correct address on your license. So when
that happened, he probably gave a couple of questions a shot and gave
you the benefit of the doubt that you had just not gotten around to it
yet. That civil infraction, and your answer to same (not to say that
you didn't know would have provoked a different outcome), combined
with a few other things, such as a lot of air fresheners in your car,
no proof of insurance, you haven't signed your registration, etc.
(many others), can be assessed together as a reason for suspicion to
justify a search of your car -- to find out who they are dealing with.
It can also simply really only be a question pulled out of the air
just to be a question to provoke an answer--to get a person talking as
much as possible to find out if you've been drinking too, the more
talkin' a drinker does, the more a drinker gives themselves away. lol.
Also, he's pretty certain this practice was widely in place in the
70's and it has nothing to do with 9/11. There have been unlawful
drivers for eons.

I'm not saying there aren't cops out there who do pull over good-
looking blondes. Heck, some even proposition women, I'm just saying
this is sort of a parallel comparison as to how something can be
misconstrued or misunderstood, and it most definitely feeds the fire
on the "I hate cops/Ain't they got anything better to do/He was
picking on me" mentality. I was admittedly one of those. LOL.



Reply from: Jeannie
Date: 02 Apr 2008, 22:01
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RaeMorrill <RaeMorrill.3798rk@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote in
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> He worked a late shift at a company in Portland. Many
> times he was stopped on his way home for no reason (no citations at
> least most of the times).

What was the citation when he did receive one?

Reply from: Gisele
Date: 02 Apr 2008, 22:52
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material


> What about when black people say it?
>
I would say that does not obviate the experience of other black people.
I would also say that you are cherry picking.

Gisele


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Reply from: Jeannie
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 00:14
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material

Gisele <Gisele.379cqv@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote in
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>>
> I would say that does not obviate the experience of other black people.
> I would also say that you are cherry picking.

I asked a pertinent question to the conversation. How is that cherry
picking?

I hear many of our black, local town councilmen, other city leaders, etc.
trying to put an end to the playing of the "victim" card - asking how long
are they going to cry and whine about something that happened to people
they don't even know - family or not.

Reply from: Ed Chait
Date: 03 Apr 2008, 02:30
Re: Warning (for Gisele) Contains anti-liberal material


"Gisele" <Gisele.379cqv@no-mx.forums.yourdomain,com .au> wrote in message
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>
>> What about when black people say it?
>>
> I would say that does not obviate the experience of other black people.
> I would also say that you are cherry picking.
>
> Gisele


Nothing obviates anyone's "experience" but when black people say it, it
certainly brings the whole issue into question.

ed




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