How much gold per tooth or crown??

How much gold per tooth or crown??

Dear newsgroup,
In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
weight please?

Thanks in advance!

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

2-3g. Inc. or 3-5 for Mol.

"slakka" <iggy07450@hotmail,com > wrote in message
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> Dear newsgroup,
> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
> weight please?
>
> Thanks in advance!

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Mar 28, 8:31 am, "oN" <kotot...@peva,com > wrote:
> 2-3g. Inc. or 3-5 for Mol.
>
> "slakka" <iggy07...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:a80077a1-1e66-400c-a16a-7cb7a5318de8@k13g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > Dear newsgroup,
> > In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
> > weight please?
>
> > Thanks in advance!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So I wonder what the cost would be at today's gold price i wonder?

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

Are you trying to figure out the scrap value of an old gold crown, or the
cost (to the lab) of gold material used in a typical crown.

"slakka" <iggy07450@hotmail,com > wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 8:31 am, "oN" <kotot...@peva,com > wrote:
> 2-3g. Inc. or 3-5 for Mol.
>
> "slakka" <iggy07...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:a80077a1-1e66-400c-a16a-7cb7a5318de8@k13g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > Dear newsgroup,
> > In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
> > weight please?
>
> > Thanks in advance!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So I wonder what the cost would be at today's gold price i wonder?

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

slakka wrote:
> Dear newsgroup,
> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
> weight please?
>
> Thanks in advance!


Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.

Steve

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
<dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:

>slakka wrote:
>> Dear newsgroup,
>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>> weight please?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>
>Steve


What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?

Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.

1 dwt = 1.55 gm
20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
> <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:
>
>> slakka wrote:
>>> Dear newsgroup,
>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>>> weight please?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>>
>> Steve
>
>
> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>
> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>
> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.


For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.

Steve

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

often

They charge you for the amount of gold placed in the casting well
(sometimes) rather than the finished weight of the gold. They want to
re-coup the cost of the gold that is ground away and never recovered.

"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote in message
news:13ur4dd7i7p6l30@corp.supernews,com ...
> Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
>> <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:
>>
>>> slakka wrote:
>>>> Dear newsgroup,
>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>>>> weight please?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>>
>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>>
>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>>
>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>
>
> For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>
> Steve

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:30:17 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
<nicola@..amanti,com > wrote:

>often
>
>They charge you for the amount of gold placed in the casting well
>(sometimes)

So if they are casting with 8 - 10 dwt, they charge for that weight ?

Even though the rough casting may only weigh 3.5 dwt after removing
from the sprue ? Hmmm.....

Could see Rough Casting Weight after removal of the sprue/button
plus ~10% for cutting loss.

Guess it depends on the lab policy.
A very interesting perspective though.

> rather than the finished weight of the gold. They want to
>re-coup the cost of the gold that is ground away and never recovered.
>
>"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote in message
>news:13ur4dd7i7p6l30@corp.supernews,com ...
>> Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
>>> <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> slakka wrote:
>>>>> Dear newsgroup,
>>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>>>>> weight please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>>>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
>>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>>>
>>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
>>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>>>
>>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
>>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>>
>>
>> For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>>
>> Steve
>

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:30:17 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
>
> <nicola@..amanti,com > wrote:
> >often
>
> >They charge you for the amount of gold placed in the casting well
> >(sometimes)
>
> So if they are casting with 8 - 10 dwt,  they charge for that weight ?
>
> Even though the rough casting may only weigh 3.5 dwt after removing
> from the sprue ?  Hmmm.....
>
> Could see Rough Casting Weight  after removal of the sprue/button
> plus ~10% for cutting loss.
>
> Guess it depends on the lab policy.
> A very interesting perspective though.
>
>
>
> > rather than the finished weight of the gold.  They want to
> >re-coup the cost of the gold that is ground away and never recovered.
>
> >"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote in message
> >news:13ur4dd7i7p6l30@corp.supernews,com ...
> >> New...@bix.nex wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
> >>> <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote:
>
> >>>> slakka wrote:
> >>>>> Dear newsgroup,
> >>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
> >>>>> weight please?
>
> >>>>>  Thanks in advance!
>
> >>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown.  Not unusual to
> >>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy.  Most high noble casting alloys are
> >>>> maybe 70% gold.  This is just off the top of my head.
>
> >>>> Steve
>
> >>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB  ?
> >>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's  ?
>
> >>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
> >>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>
> >>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
> >>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>
> >> For a full cast crown?  My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>
> >> Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you trying to figure out the scrap value of an old gold crown

Exactly! Several of them of fact.

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

slakka wrote:
> On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:30:17 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
>>
>> <nicola@..amanti,com > wrote:
>>> often
>>> They charge you for the amount of gold placed in the casting well
>>> (sometimes)
>> So if they are casting with 8 - 10 dwt, they charge for that weight ?
>>
>> Even though the rough casting may only weigh 3.5 dwt after removing
>> from the sprue ? Hmmm.....
>>
>> Could see Rough Casting Weight after removal of the sprue/button
>> plus ~10% for cutting loss.
>>
>> Guess it depends on the lab policy.
>> A very interesting perspective though.
>>
>>
>>
>>> rather than the finished weight of the gold. They want to
>>> re-coup the cost of the gold that is ground away and never recovered.
>>> "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote in message
>>> news:13ur4dd7i7p6l30@corp.supernews,com ...
>>>> New...@bix.nex wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
>>>>> <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote:
>>>>>> slakka wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear newsgroup,
>>>>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>>>>>>> weight please?
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>>>>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>>>>>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
>>>>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>>>>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
>>>>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>>>>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
>>>>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>>>> For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>>>> Steve- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Are you trying to figure out the scrap value of an old gold crown
>
> Exactly! Several of them of fact.


I sold my scrap, collected over many years, a couple of years back.
You don't get nearly the value of the gold--the stuff is often dirty,
and refining costs something also. I didn't bother trying to even
estimate the amount of gold I really had. A good jeweler may be able to
tell you, or alternatively you can go to a known, ethical refiner such
as Garfield.

Steve

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:48:41 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
<dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:

>> Are you trying to figure out the scrap value of an old gold crown
>>
>> Exactly! Several of them of fact.
>
>
> I sold my scrap, collected over many years, a couple of years back.
>You don't get nearly the value of the gold--the stuff is often dirty,
>and refining costs something also. I didn't bother trying to even
>estimate the amount of gold I really had. A good jeweler may be able to
>tell you, or alternatively you can go to a known, ethical refiner such
>as Garfield.
>
>Steve


Yep, Garfield is your best bet.

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

Figure about $4-12 each.

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/

Amatus

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"slakka" <iggy07450@hotmail,com > wrote in message
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On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:30:17 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
>
> <nicola@..amanti,com > wrote:
> >often
>
> >They charge you for the amount of gold placed in the casting well
> >(sometimes)
>
> So if they are casting with 8 - 10 dwt, they charge for that weight ?
>
> Even though the rough casting may only weigh 3.5 dwt after removing
> from the sprue ? Hmmm.....
>
> Could see Rough Casting Weight after removal of the sprue/button
> plus ~10% for cutting loss.
>
> Guess it depends on the lab policy.
> A very interesting perspective though.
>
>
>
> > rather than the finished weight of the gold. They want to
> >re-coup the cost of the gold that is ground away and never recovered.
>
> >"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote in message
> >news:13ur4dd7i7p6l30@corp.supernews,com ...
> >> New...@bix.nex wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
> >>> <dentaltwinm...@earthlink,net > wrote:
>
> >>>> slakka wrote:
> >>>>> Dear newsgroup,
> >>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> weight please?
>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance!
>
> >>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
> >>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
> >>>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>
> >>>> Steve
>
> >>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
> >>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>
> >>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
> >>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>
> >>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
> >>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>
> >> For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>
> >> Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you trying to figure out the scrap value of an old gold crown

Exactly! Several of them of fact.

Re: How much gold per tooth or crown??

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:47:40 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
<dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:

>Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:37:37 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
>> <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote:
>>
>>> slakka wrote:
>>>> Dear newsgroup,
>>>> In re the header above, can anybody put me in the ballpark in term of
>>>> weight please?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Depends upon the alloy used and the size of the crown. Not unusual to
>>> have maybe 1/4 to 1/3 oz alloy. Most high noble casting alloys are
>>> maybe 70% gold. This is just off the top of my head.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>>
>> What are you putting in peoples mouths SB ?
>> 6 unit full cast gold FPD's ?
>>
>> Average molar crown would be 2 - 3 dwt
>> Even at 4 dwt that's only 1/5 oz Troy.
>>
>> 1 dwt = 1.55 gm
>> 20 dwt = 1 oz Troy.
>
>
> For a full cast crown? My lab must have his thumb on the scale.
>
>Steve


Hmm...
Maybe weigh the next one ?