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What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

Reply from: hamdell_ruston@yahoo.co.uk
Date: 04 Apr 2008, 21:30
What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 3, 7:08 pm, Luny Mark Thorson <eee@sonic,net > wrote:

<all of Luny Mark Thorson's unproven lies and deceitful content
removed>

Well, you had to know if wouldn't take long for one of Shimadzu's paid
henchmen and Taliban supporters to chime in to prove this point yet
again:

If you complain about Shimadzu, be prepared for Shimadzu to send in
their paid henchmen to harass, blame and defame you... and then
possibly mutilate, rape and murder you!

http :// groups.google,com /group/sci.chem/msg/25c5a83a955bbdf7

Luny Mark Thorson: One thing is obvious, you like to trash others in
an attempt to drag them down into the muck that you call home!

I think Kukucka has already denied much of the untruthful crap you
continue to post, cross-post and then cross-post some more:
http :// groups.google,com /group/sci.med.nutrition/browse thread/thread/ebbb78d0b7559c32#

Knowingly, intentionally and deliberately publishing lies could result
in another defamation lawsuit (like the one you already lost to Cell
Tech).

What Luny Mark Thorson doesn't address are the views presented here:
http :// groups.google,com /group/sci.chem/msg/a5a188d9a04b0e56

Namely,

1) why he's a Shimadzu henchmen,
2) how do henchmen, like yourself, help Shimadzu's bottom line,
3) why do you campaign so ardently to keep Dr. Kukucka unemployed
(willfully depriving someone of their livelihood, like a doctor, could
cost you millions),
4) what does it make you look like when you respond to a so-called
lunatic (again, your responses make you look more luny and psycho then
anyone else, but you already knew that, so that's why you continue to
respond),
5) what higher education degrees have you earned besides a Bachelor's
in Neurobiology from UC-Berkeley (other than harassment, the blame
game, defamation, cyberstalking, lying repeatedly, being a general
nuisance), and
6) what scientific publications can we find your handiwork published
in?


Here's what others have written about you Luny Mark Thorson:
http :// newsgroups.derkeiler,com /Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/2007-10/msg00552.html

"Again, please contact the Chemical Sensitivity Foundation, Mark, I
think I would support their (and I don't), research more than I
support your degree in Neurobiology from the University of California
in Berkeley, nor background as a Tech Writer. Nor the time you spent
at IBM's Almaden Valley Center. Say, hasn't your former employer, IBM,
had a trunk load of Chemical Tort Cases against them?"

http :// newsgroups.derkeiler,com /Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/2007-11/msg00407.html

"Mark is still here today, bullying away. Everything about the guy is
a
fabrication -- he's got a "BS in Neurobiology" but he's never heard of
the journal Science or the AAAS (world's LARGEST scientific society,
publishers or world's #1 scientific journal). He's in the "IT
business" somehow, but also associated with the pharmaceutical
chemistry arena. He's a walking contradiction, a usenet bully and
policeman of this group. Aren't we all glad he's here, protecting us?"

Luny Mark Thorson has a documented history of propagating untruths:
http :// groups.google,com /group/misc.health.alternative/browse thread/thread/07c24ce3ca53d96c/d64c4a8e15f96baf?lnk=raot

Cell Tech International (who sued Luny Mark Thorson for defamation) is
now: http :// www .simplexityhealth,com /

Here are some notes from Luny Mark Thorson's defamation lawsuit which
he lost: http :// www .afa-algen-online.nl/pag4.html

"In a second case, the aforementioned company Cell Tech filed a
lawsuit against an individual, Mark Thorson, who had relentlessly
published over the Internet that Aph. flos-aquae from Klamath Lake
contained a neurotoxin similar to cocaine and dangerous to consumers.
Once again, after considerable effort to prove his allegations, Mr.
Thorson lost his case. He was also asked to published the following
statement over the Internet:

"During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to
this and other newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a
Primer." I now retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.

The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath
Lake, produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I
characterized as addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids
testing for this toxin because anatoxin-a is responsible for the
effects reported by SBGA users. I have since been advised that Cell
Tech conducts regular tests that would disclose anatoxin-a, and that
this toxin has never been found in Super Blue Green Algae. I had no
basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a Primer, and I
hereby retract it in full."

So Luny Mark Thorson, how much did your Cell Tech court loss cost you?

Here's Luny Mark Thorson's penned public retraction after he lost his
case: http :// groups.google,com /group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/3f44b3e07f6a3bb6

From: eee@netcom,com (Mark Thorson)
Date: 2000/04/02
Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Message-ID: <8c63n5$aq0$1@slb0.atl.mindspring,net >

Luny Mark Thorson has recently been associated with these
collaborative colleagues: Mark A Holler and Forrest Warthman. I wonder
if they know about this troubled individual who likes to trash other's
fine reputation! Luny Mark Thorson just can't stand to see someone who
has succeeded and far distinguished themselves from the muck that Luny
Mark Thorson calls home!

Here's some of Luny Mark Thorson's (formerly eee@netcom,com ) Nuggets:
http :// portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid32012.565004

LIAR, LIAR, Luny Mark Thorson's Pants Are On FIRE:
http :// www .pahealthsystems,com /archive254-2006-9-813916.html

Some have characterized Luny Mark Thorson's obsession(s) as "vicious"
http :// sci.tech-archive,net /Archive/sci.med.dentistry/2004-12/1298.html
If it fits Luny Mark Thorson, then wear it!

Have you seen the Mark & Jean Letter:
http :// groups.google,com /group/talk.politics.drugs/browse thread/thread/7af768381064e9b0/1b54711c3c198040?lnk=st&q=mark+thorson#1b54711c3c198040

Luny Mark Thorson's feeble agruments debunked:
http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.cancer/browse thread/thread/1d14dfcdccedb265/dfe701ff26851723?lnk=st&q=mark+thorson#dfe701ff26851723

Luny Mark Thorson knows all about paid shills, specifically Mark
Probert:
http :// groups.google,com /group/misc.health.alternative/browse thread/thread/3ee6258a37262be2/7bd20ffc32c12630?lnk=st&q=mark+thorson#7bd20ffc32c12630

Let me know if I missed anything Luny Mark Thorson!

Your Buddy Hamdell

Reply from: dlzc
Date: 04 Apr 2008, 22:14
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 4, 12:30 pm, hamdell rus...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Apr 3, 7:08 pm, Luny Mark Thorson <e...@sonic,net > wrote:

Personal attack on "Mark Thorson" noted, and reported to Google
Groups.

David A. Smith

Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 05:04
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 4, 1:14 pm, dlzc <dl...@cox,net > wrote:

> Personal attack on "Mark Thorson" noted, and reported to Google
> Groups.
>
> David A. Smith

Did you note the other personal attacks on other people and reported
them to
Google groups too?



Reply from: dlzc\
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 05:36
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

"Bee" <Butterflies2222@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:8578c016-d753-4d72-8431-c233e5ec7c19@x19g2000prg.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 4, 1:14 pm, dlzc <dl...@cox,net > wrote:

>> Personal attack on "Mark Thorson" noted, and
>> reported to Google Groups.

> Did you note the other personal attacks on other
> people and reported them to Google groups too?

If they name people, and originate from Google Groups, yes.

David A. Smith



Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 20:38
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 4, 8:36 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl...@cox,net >
wrote:
> "Bee" <Butterflies2...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:8578c016-d753-4d72-8431-c233e5ec7c19@x19g2000prg.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 4, 1:14 pm, dlzc <dl...@cox,net > wrote:
>
> >> Personal attack on "Mark Thorson" noted, and
> >> reported to Google Groups.
> > Did you note the other personal attacks on other
> > people and reported them to Google groups too?
>
> If they name people, and originate from Google Groups, yes.
>
> David A. Smith

Why just google groups?



Reply from: Steve Pope
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 21:17
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

Bee <Butterflies2222@gmail,com > wrote:

> Dave wrote,

>> > Did you note the other personal attacks on other
>> > people and reported them to Google groups too?

>> If they name people, and originate from Google Groups, yes.

>> David A. Smith

>Why just google groups?

Why would you report posts that do not originate from Google Groups
to Google Groups?

Steve

Reply from: Kulacz
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 21:24
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 5, 3:17 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Bee  <Butterflies2...@gmail,com > wrote:
> > Dave wrote,
> >> > Did you note the other personal attacks on other
> >> > people and reported them to Google groups too?
> >> If they name people, and originate from Google Groups, yes.
> >> David A. Smith
> >Why just google groups?
>
> Why would you report posts that do not originate from Google Groups
> to Google Groups?
>
> Steve

Ah the internet. Such a friendly place.
Used wisely, it is wonderful.
However in my opinion it has become a forum for propoganda and hate.
Quite sad.

Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 22:44
thugs

On Apr 5, 12:17 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

> Why would you report posts that do not originate from Google Groups
> to Google Groups?
>
> Steve

What I meant to say (and thank you for correcting me), is if you
report
one then you need to report all. I really think it is time to get out
of
third grade and stop putting people's name in "lights." Some I think
get
off on it.

Thank you.

Reply from: dlzc\
Date: 06 Apr 2008, 02:00
Re: thugs

Dear Bee:

"Bee" <Butterflies2222@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:0060d6fc-f9e5-463b-b565-f4eac281dd7b@c19g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
On Apr 5, 12:17 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> Why would you report posts that do not
>> originate from Google Groups to Google
>> Groups?

> What I meant to say (and thank you for
> correcting me), is if you report one then
> you need to report all.

Already done. Report the abusive behavior to the NSP (in this
case Google Groups) of the person that is abusing. Eventually,
this person will either observe the charter, their NSP will dump
them, or they will carry on without any consideration of the
rules of a polite society.

Sometimes people are not aware that they are publishing writings
in a newsgroup that is archived for years, one that can be mined
by propsective employers (or co-workers).

David A. Smith



Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 21:09
thugs

On Apr 4, 12:30 pm, hamdell rus...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>
> Let me know if I missed anything Luny Mark Thorson!
>
> Your Buddy Hamdell

I find your information entertaining. Do you happen to know
if Dr. Wallace Sampson (I think he is a legal advisor for ACSH)
is still connected with Stanford?

I actually think I may have run into the person you speak about
before, not me running
into him, but him running into me. Is there a photo somewhere to look
at?

Reply from: The SHIT in Shi-madzu
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 21:30
What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 5, 3:09 pm, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:30 pm, hamdell rus...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > Let me know if I missed anything Luny Mark Thorson!
>
> > Your Buddy Hamdell
>
> I find your information entertaining.  Do you happen to know
> if Dr. Wallace Sampson (I think he is a legal advisor for ACSH)
> is still connected with Stanford?
>
> I actually think I may have run into the person you speak about
> before, not me running
> into him, but him running into me.  Is there a photo somewhere to look
> at?

There is a Mark Thorson on Facebook at:
http :// www .hs.facebook,com /people/Mark Thorson/51702556

Do any of them look like the named LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and
HARASSER?

Please elaborate on the relationship with Dr. Wallace Sampson!

What is ACSH?

Any additional info about this LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and
HARASSER would be greatly appreciated!

BTW: Thanx Hamdell for your detailed research on this LIAR, BULLY,
THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER.

n.b. Ooooh and for David A. Smith... you can forward your silly report
to groups-abuse@google,com . Let's see where that gets you buddy.
PREDICTION: N O W H E R E

Reply from: dlzc\
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 21:50
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

"The SHIT in Shi-madzu" <shimadzu_usa@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:26a80a62-5de1-47ba-b11f-a1dc20cb48ae@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
...
> n.b. Ooooh and for David A. Smith... you can
> forward your silly report to
> groups-abuse@google,com . Let's see where
> that gets you buddy. PREDICTION:
> N O W H E R E

And you can make your pathetic noises, and rail against whomever
disagrees with you. But when you violate the rules (few though
there are) you get reported. As will Mark Thorson.

The question is, if you know you are being even more abusive than
the person you complain about, what does that say about you?
What does that make you? Will you blast yourself here publically
also?

Or will you shut the f*ck up, and perhaps get a life?

David A. Smith



Reply from: uv_vis_ir@yahoo,com
Date: 07 Apr 2008, 19:30
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 5, 3:50 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl...@cox,net >
wrote:
> "The SHIT in Shi-madzu" <shimadzu ...@yahoo,com > wrote in messagenews:26a80a62-5de1-47ba-b11f-a1dc20cb48ae@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> ...
>
> > n.b. Ooooh and for David A. Smith... you can
> > forward your silly report to
> > groups-ab...@google,com . Let's see where
> > that gets you buddy. PREDICTION:
> >   N O W H E R E
>
> And you can make your pathetic noises, and rail against whomever
> disagrees with you.  But when you violate the rules (few though
> there are) you get reported.  As will Mark Thorson.
>
> The question is, if you know you are being even more abusive than
> the person you complain about, what does that say about you?
> What does that make you?  Will you blast yourself here publically
> also?
>
> Or will you shut the f*ck up, and perhaps get a life?
>
> David A. Smith

Again, the fact that some of these writings (from Mark Thorson and
other anonymous attackers), which specifically mention repeatedly
trying to get Dr. Kukucka fired, contacting his present employers
while also trying to deny future employment, speaks volumes. These
individuals have just absolutely trashed Dr. Kukucka online over the
years with nary a shread of undeniable evidence that he has ever
mentioned Shimadzu, let alone put them in a bad light. There so-called
evidence is dreamt up vengeful poppycock that they quote, cross-post
and quote some more!

I have watched from the sidelines long enough and these lowlifes need
to be exposed for the potential hacks, henchmen and paid Shimadzu
shills that they may very well be!

Which office does Dr. Kukucka go to to get his reputation back?

Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 22:47
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 5, 12:30 pm, The SHIT in Shi-madzu <shimadzu ...@yahoo,com >
wrote:

>
> Please elaborate on the relationship with Dr. Wallace Sampson!

Here is my question--I said nothing about a relationship with Dr.
Sampson.

I find your information entertaining. Do you happen to know
> > if Dr. Wallace Sampson (I think he is a legal advisor for ACSH)
> > is still connected with Stanford?
>
> What is ACSH?
>
American Council on Science and Health.



Reply from: Bee
Date: 05 Apr 2008, 22:48
Re: What you need to know about LIAR, BULLY, THUG, CYBERSTALKER and HARASSER Mark Thorson

On Apr 5, 12:30 pm, The SHIT in Shi-madzu <shimadzu ...@yahoo,com >
wrote:

>
> There is a Mark Thorson on Facebook at: http :// www .hs.facebook,com /people/Mark Thorson/51702556
>
>
I cannot see his picture--are you talking about the group photo?

Who is who?


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