Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
at the gum line? If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
translucent natural look?

Thanks for information.

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

BobKK47 wrote:
> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
> at the gum line? If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
> translucent natural look?
>
> Thanks for information.


While theoretically you can etch porcelain in the mouth and maybe bond
to the surface, I've never seen it done. You still couldn't achieve
better translucency since the metal understructure is still there. You
would also have to build up the porcelain at the gumline or opaque it if
the margin of the PFM crown is really visible.
It would be far better to just replace the PFM crown with an
all-ceramic crown.

Steve

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

Let me think,,,,

$950 for a laminate repair to an old crown

$1000 for a new crown

I can almost predict what most people would choose.

BTW, you need to address why the margin of the crown is exposed. Look up
"Abfraction".

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Amatus

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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote in message
news:1ISdnTRvVqJS5abVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
> BobKK47 wrote:
>> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
>> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
>> at the gum line? If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
>> translucent natural look?
>>
>> Thanks for information.
>
>
> While theoretically you can etch porcelain in the mouth and maybe bond to
> the surface, I've never seen it done. You still couldn't achieve better
> translucency since the metal understructure is still there. You would
> also have to build up the porcelain at the gumline or opaque it if the
> margin of the PFM crown is really visible.
> It would be far better to just replace the PFM crown with an all-ceramic
> crown.
>
> Steve

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:03:59 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
<Nicola@sottovocce,com > wrote:

>Let me think,,,,
>
>$950 for a laminate repair to an old crown
>
>$1000 for a new crown
>
>I can almost predict what most people would choose.
>
>BTW, you need to address why the margin of the crown is exposed. Look up
>"Abfraction".
>
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>/
>
>Amatus


In my practice it's:

$895 for a Chromatech Veneer

$895 for a Chromatech Crown

And... the veneer won't work.

Replace the crown with all ceramic.

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

Got a recent mailing from Lumineers advocating just this application....I
agree that its much more predictable esthetically just to replace the entire
crown, this time with an all ceramic one.

John


"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote in message
news:1ISdnTRvVqJS5abVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
> BobKK47 wrote:
>> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
>> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
>> at the gum line? If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
>> translucent natural look?
>>
>> Thanks for information.
>
>
> While theoretically you can etch porcelain in the mouth and maybe bond to
> the surface, I've never seen it done. You still couldn't achieve better
> translucency since the metal understructure is still there. You would
> also have to build up the porcelain at the gumline or opaque it if the
> margin of the PFM crown is really visible.
> It would be far better to just replace the PFM crown with an all-ceramic
> crown.
>
> Steve

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

Thank about the fee to do this.

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Amatus

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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex,net > wrote in message
news:EYSdnXJjZoIzN6HVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@sentex,net ...
> Got a recent mailing from Lumineers advocating just this application....I
> agree that its much more predictable esthetically just to replace the
> entire crown, this time with an all ceramic one.
>
> John
>
>
> "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung@earthlink,net > wrote in message
> news:1ISdnTRvVqJS5abVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>> BobKK47 wrote:
>>> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
>>> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
>>> at the gum line? If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
>>> translucent natural look?
>>>
>>> Thanks for information.
>>
>>
>> While theoretically you can etch porcelain in the mouth and maybe bond to
>> the surface, I've never seen it done. You still couldn't achieve better
>> translucency since the metal understructure is still there. You would
>> also have to build up the porcelain at the gumline or opaque it if the
>> margin of the PFM crown is really visible.
>> It would be far better to just replace the PFM crown with an all-ceramic
>> crown.
>>
>> Steve
>
>

Re: Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

On May 27, 2:49 am, BobKK47 <b...@uplink,net > wrote:
> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
> at the gum line?    If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
> translucent natural look?
>
> Thanks for information.

Just make a new crown. It may be a little more troublesome, but it's
worth it.

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