Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's


Amatus

Working on H.E. Kayser, Op 20 right now

<Newbie@bix.nex> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:16:42 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins,com > wrote:
>
>>Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1 May 2008 00:19:51 -0400, "Robert"
>>> <guyinct17@NOSPAMyahoo,com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will probably need my upper wisdom teeth extracted soon.
>>>>
>>>> I read in a couple of places that the oral surgeon is supposed to use a
>>>> "burr" to remove the ligaments and the first milimeter or bone in the
>>>> socket. Is that something that oral surgeons routinely do, or is it
>>>> something I will need to hunt around for? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Who told/sold you that wagon full of excrement ?
>>>
>>> Routinely remove impacted WTs in my practice.
>>> There's nothing to it for an experienced surgeon,
>>> and rarely do I ever need to a use a rotary instrument
>>> for uppers.
>>>
>>> Am beginning to think that "Robert" is a troll in the 'classic' sense.
>>>
>>> We may have been had, gentlemen.
>>
>>
>> Don't know your dental school vintage, Newbie. We actually were told
>>to curet the sockets esp. of teeth with molars. The alleged problem was
>>PDL tissue containing epithelial rests, which I suppose were supposedly
>>going to magically transform into cysts. Of course we were also
>>culturing root canals back then.
>> Robert--I think it's time to get off the web--newbie is right.
>>Curetting (much less rotary instrumentation) is hogwash--extra pain,
>>delayed healing and additional trauma for nothing.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
> They didn't exactly teach us impaction removal in DS '84
>
> Learned from a couple of good surgeons after graduation.
>
> If there is a follicle, I remove it with a curved hemo.
> really simple, and the PDL comes with the tooth.
>
> There really is no need to currette the WT crypt, unless
> it is filled wth lots of granulation tissue, even then, using
> a sharp periosteal and a curved mosquito are still the
> best instruments for the task IMO.

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

Amatus Cremona wrote:
> I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
> fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's
>
>
> Amatus
>
> Working on H.E. Kayser, Op 20 right now


Can't says I knows 'im. At least you play an instrument that was
written for by composers people have heard of. Was Kayser a pedagogue,
or did he write concert music?

Steve
>

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http :// www .dentaltwins,com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

pedagogue

--
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Amatus

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"Mark & Steven Bornfeld" <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins,com > wrote in message
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> Amatus Cremona wrote:
>> I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
>> fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's
>>
>>
>> Amatus
>>
>> Working on H.E. Kayser, Op 20 right now
>
>
> Can't says I knows 'im. At least you play an instrument that was written
> for by composers people have heard of. Was Kayser a pedagogue, or did he
> write concert music?
>
> Steve
>>
>
> --
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
> http :// www .dentaltwins,com
> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

"Amatus Cremona" <nicola@..amanti,com > wrote in message
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>I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
>fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's

Nope. Just was asking about normal wisdom tooth extraction. Don't think
there is any point in doing an RCT on a wisdom tooth.

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:58:39 -0400, "Robert"
<guyinct17@NOSPAMyahoo,com > wrote:

>"Amatus Cremona" <nicola@..amanti,com > wrote in message
>news:_fidnU4kvNUaHoHVnZ2dnUVZ_vmlnZ2d@wideopenwest,com ...
>>I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
>>fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's
>
>Nope. Just was asking about normal wisdom tooth extraction. Don't think
>there is any point in doing an RCT on a wisdom tooth.
>


Depends on the case.
If 1st and 2nd molars are missing, a second or first bicuspid or both
are missing the WT especially on the lower becomes very important.


The problem is that you, Robert, are not a dentist,
*AND* you "don't think".

Frakking moron.

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

<Newbie@bix.nex> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:58:39 -0400, "Robert"
>
> The problem is that you, Robert, are not a dentist,
> *AND* you "don't think".
>
> Frakking moron.

Thank goodness I am not your patient. The factory dentist used to become
petulant if I asked too many questions or did research on the internet.
That should have been a big red flag. Unfortunately I "bowed to his better
judgement" and look where that got me.

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments

No offense Robert, but you are researching things that you cannot get a
"grasp" on in less than a few years of study. Your small tid-bits of
knowledge gained this way are messing you up more than helping. Any patient
coming into my office trying to micro-manage his care, gets referred down
the street. I love teaching my patients about what I do and why, but they
don't need to know the histiologic basis of basic healing processes.

Find a dental office you trust and settle back and enjoy the ride. You will
be much better off.

--
/

Amatus

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"Robert" <guyinct17@NOSPAMyahoo,com > wrote in message
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> <Newbie@bix.nex> wrote in message
> news:kqop1454b5qospsi2ntvv3a61e9mi74op2@4ax,com ...
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:58:39 -0400, "Robert"
>>
>> The problem is that you, Robert, are not a dentist,
>> *AND* you "don't think".
>>
>> Frakking moron.
>
> Thank goodness I am not your patient. The factory dentist used to become
> petulant if I asked too many questions or did research on the internet.
> That should have been a big red flag. Unfortunately I "bowed to his better
> judgement" and look where that got me.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments



We have all had patients that use up an hour of chair time for
a 15 minute procedure. If I happen to have a cancellation,
and the convesation is interesting, it's no big deal. On a
regular day, I just don't have time to break down every minute
detail of every treatment. Otherwise, the patient needs to pay
for an hour appointment even though the treatment should be much
less.

Like AC says, you can't get a real understanding of dental disease
or treatment in an hour.

When I had eye surgery following an auto accident in 1994, I didn't
pick apart the ophthamologist. She told me basically what she was
going to do, and I let her do her thing.

Understanding more does not make the outcome any better. You just
have to find a good professional in the first place.

D

Robert wrote:


> Thank goodness I am not your patient. The factory dentist used to become
> petulant if I asked too many questions or did research on the internet.
> That should have been a big red flag. Unfortunately I "bowed to his better
> judgement" and look where that got me.

Re: Wisdom tooth extraction and ligaments



When seeing all of the ridiculous crap about dentistry on the
internet, it sure makes me look at any other 'research' on the
web with a 50 lb. block of salt.

D

> I bet Robert foudn a Homeopathic site that was trying to justify excesive
> fees for extracting perfectly good teeth with RCT's
>
>
> Amatus
>
> Working on H.E. Kayser, Op 20 right now
>
> <Newbie@bix.nex> wrote in message
> news:6tgk14dsf7a4c4n4h3bbcvs7o20qaso0hu@4ax,com ...
>
>>On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:16:42 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>><bornfeldmung@dentaltwins,com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Newbie@bix.nex wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 1 May 2008 00:19:51 -0400, "Robert"
>>>><guyinct17@NOSPAMyahoo,com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I will probably need my upper wisdom teeth extracted soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>I read in a couple of places that the oral surgeon is supposed to use a
>>>>>"burr" to remove the ligaments and the first milimeter or bone in the
>>>>>socket. Is that something that oral surgeons routinely do, or is it
>>>>>something I will need to hunt around for? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who told/sold you that wagon full of excrement ?
>>>>
>>>>Routinely remove impacted WTs in my practice.
>>>>There's nothing to it for an experienced surgeon,
>>>>and rarely do I ever need to a use a rotary instrument
>>>>for uppers.
>>>>
>>>>Am beginning to think that "Robert" is a troll in the 'classic' sense.
>>>>
>>>>We may have been had, gentlemen.
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't know your dental school vintage, Newbie. We actually were told
>>>to curet the sockets esp. of teeth with molars. The alleged problem was
>>>PDL tissue containing epithelial rests, which I suppose were supposedly
>>>going to magically transform into cysts. Of course we were also
>>>culturing root canals back then.
>>>Robert--I think it's time to get off the web--newbie is right.
>>>Curetting (much less rotary instrumentation) is hogwash--extra pain,
>>>delayed healing and additional trauma for nothing.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>>
>>They didn't exactly teach us impaction removal in DS '84
>>
>>Learned from a couple of good surgeons after graduation.
>>
>>If there is a follicle, I remove it with a curved hemo.
>>really simple, and the PDL comes with the tooth.
>>
>>There really is no need to currette the WT crypt, unless
>>it is filled wth lots of granulation tissue, even then, using
>>a sharp periosteal and a curved mosquito are still the
>>best instruments for the task IMO.
>
>
>