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Playing Piano Blindfolded
Playing Piano Blindfolded
I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
ophthalmologist:
I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
furniture.)
How would you explain this?
(And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
ophthalmologist:
I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
furniture.)
How would you explain this?
(And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> ophthalmologist:
>
> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> furniture.)
>
> How would you explain this?
>
> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
--
- Nic.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> ophthalmologist:
>
> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> furniture.)
>
> How would you explain this?
>
> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
--
- Nic.
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>
> > I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> > ophthalmologist:
>
> > I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> > blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> > It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> > easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> > furniture.)
>
> > How would you explain this?
>
> > (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> > becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>
> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>
> --
> - Nic.
I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
the blind leading the blind.
Or are you saying I am blind?
You better tell me.
(I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>
> > I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> > ophthalmologist:
>
> > I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> > blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> > It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> > easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> > furniture.)
>
> > How would you explain this?
>
> > (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> > becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>
> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>
> --
> - Nic.
I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
the blind leading the blind.
Or are you saying I am blind?
You better tell me.
(I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:a72832df-c97b-4c0f-b621-54785733fb55@p25g2000pri.googlegroups . com >:
> On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
>> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
>> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>>
>>> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
>>> ophthalmologist:
>>
>>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>>
>>> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
>>> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
>>> furniture.)
>>
>>> How would you explain this?
>>
>>> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
>>> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>>
>> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>>
>> --
>> - Nic.
>
> I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
> the blind leading the blind.
>
> Or are you saying I am blind?
>
> You better tell me.
>
> (I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
No, I hadn't 'better' do anything.
Who in hell do you think you are to tell me what I had 'better' do, child?
I don't take instructions from some wet-behind-the-ears son of a clown.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:a72832df-c97b-4c0f-b621-54785733fb55@p25g2000pri.googlegroups . com >:
> On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
>> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
>> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>>
>>> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
>>> ophthalmologist:
>>
>>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>>
>>> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
>>> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
>>> furniture.)
>>
>>> How would you explain this?
>>
>>> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
>>> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>>
>> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>>
>> --
>> - Nic.
>
> I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
> the blind leading the blind.
>
> Or are you saying I am blind?
>
> You better tell me.
>
> (I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
No, I hadn't 'better' do anything.
Who in hell do you think you are to tell me what I had 'better' do, child?
I don't take instructions from some wet-behind-the-ears son of a clown.
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Apr 13, 12:40 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> <news:a72832df-c97b-4c0f-b621-54785733fb55@p25g2000pri.googlegroups . com >:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> >> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> >> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com =
>:
>
> >>> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> >>> ophthalmologist:
>
> >>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> >>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> >>> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> >>> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> >>> furniture.)
>
> >>> How would you explain this?
>
> >>> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually=
> >>> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>
> >> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>
> >> --
> >> - Nic.
>
> > I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
> > the blind leading the blind.
>
> > Or are you saying I am blind?
>
> > You better tell me.
>
> > (I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
>
> No, I hadn't 'better' do anything.
> Who in hell do you think you are to tell me what I had 'better' do, child
> I don't take instructions from some wet-behind-the-ears son of a clown.
Lol you're the child having a temper tantrum, right?
Where are we going with this??
On Apr 13, 12:40 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> <news:a72832df-c97b-4c0f-b621-54785733fb55@p25g2000pri.googlegroups . com >:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 13, 12:13 am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> >> <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote in
> >> <news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com =
>:
>
> >>> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> >>> ophthalmologist:
>
> >>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> >>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> >>> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> >>> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> >>> furniture.)
>
> >>> How would you explain this?
>
> >>> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually=
> >>> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
>
> >> Truly a case of the blind leading the blind.
>
> >> --
> >> - Nic.
>
> > I totally agree with you. Conventional optometry is truly a case of
> > the blind leading the blind.
>
> > Or are you saying I am blind?
>
> > You better tell me.
>
> > (I know, laugh as you wish. =D)
>
> No, I hadn't 'better' do anything.
> Who in hell do you think you are to tell me what I had 'better' do, child
> I don't take instructions from some wet-behind-the-ears son of a clown.
Lol you're the child having a temper tantrum, right?
Where are we going with this??
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
BTW I am becoming famous someday so you better not try me too much.
lol..
BTW I am becoming famous someday so you better not try me too much.
lol..
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
Yes me and Jason are gonna win the nobel prize someday and get famous
so SHUT UP ALL OF YOU!
Yes me and Jason are gonna win the nobel prize someday and get famous
so SHUT UP ALL OF YOU!
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:12:39 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:1866f947-f465-4b22-93e6-a64452e2288d@m1g2000pre.googlegroups . com >:
> BTW I am becoming famous someday so you better not try me too much.
>
> lol..
BOSH
I have grandchildren who are older and smarter than you are.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:12:39 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
<news:1866f947-f465-4b22-93e6-a64452e2288d@m1g2000pre.googlegroups . com >:
> BTW I am becoming famous someday so you better not try me too much.
>
> lol..
BOSH
I have grandchildren who are older and smarter than you are.
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
I'm smarter than you, they're smarter than you, we're smarter than
you!
Blah blah, who cares
I'm smarter than you, they're smarter than you, we're smarter than
you!
Blah blah, who cares
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
>On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
><jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
><news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>>
>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>>
>> How would you explain this?
>>
To the OP:
Although I'm no expert in psychomotor activity, I play classical
piano. I (and, I think, most pianists) hardly ever look at the keys
once I've figured out the piece and gotten used to playing it.
I believe the behavior is explained by "muscle memory". Google it.
Muscle memory is a normal human (primate?, mammalian?) function and
explains many activities like tying your shoes, handwriting, driving a
car, becoming skilled at sports activities, and, of course, playing
musical instruments.
In playing the piano, your hard/arm/finger muscles remember the
spatial distance between physical movements across the keyboard.
Very often, when I'm "in the zone", I close my eyes and let the music
flow out of me. Enjoy your journey with the piano! Create beauty!
--
Regards,
Dan
>On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
><jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote in
><news:0622d940-a916-4161-87b3-acb299aae30c@s13g2000prd.googlegroups . com >:
>>
>> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>>
>> How would you explain this?
>>
To the OP:
Although I'm no expert in psychomotor activity, I play classical
piano. I (and, I think, most pianists) hardly ever look at the keys
once I've figured out the piece and gotten used to playing it.
I believe the behavior is explained by "muscle memory". Google it.
Muscle memory is a normal human (primate?, mammalian?) function and
explains many activities like tying your shoes, handwriting, driving a
car, becoming skilled at sports activities, and, of course, playing
musical instruments.
In playing the piano, your hard/arm/finger muscles remember the
spatial distance between physical movements across the keyboard.
Very often, when I'm "in the zone", I close my eyes and let the music
flow out of me. Enjoy your journey with the piano! Create beauty!
--
Regards,
Dan
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
I envy you Elite Pianoists...
One day, I will become the greatest master of piano who ever lived.
Yes Jason, that means I'm going to beat you. (Well, after you've
taught me how to play, lol)
I envy you Elite Pianoists...
One day, I will become the greatest master of piano who ever lived.
Yes Jason, that means I'm going to beat you. (Well, after you've
taught me how to play, lol)
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
Hey Jason I'm bored.
When you are coming to my house in London?
I wish there was a teleport or "portkey" (or even traveling through
the fireplace with flu powder) something that lets you go from London
the America and back instantaneously... Actually, I wish I could just
apparate there... *WHIP!*
Hey Jason I'm bored.
When you are coming to my house in London?
I wish there was a teleport or "portkey" (or even traveling through
the fireplace with flu powder) something that lets you go from London
the America and back instantaneously... Actually, I wish I could just
apparate there... *WHIP!*
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry <jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote:
>I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
>ophthalmologist:
>
>I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
>[...]
>How would you explain this?
>
Why does it need to be explained? There are chess masters who
can play 20 or 30 games of chess all at the same time, without
looking at any of the chessboards.
You do something for a long time, you develop excellent memory
regarding that thing.
What's so strange about that?
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:08 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry <jasonsperry13@gmail . com > wrote:
>I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
>ophthalmologist:
>
>I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
>blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
>[...]
>How would you explain this?
>
Why does it need to be explained? There are chess masters who
can play 20 or 30 games of chess all at the same time, without
looking at any of the chessboards.
You do something for a long time, you develop excellent memory
regarding that thing.
What's so strange about that?
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
There's nothing strange, Jason was raising the point because it
negates Tyner's own argument (which was wrong).
There's nothing strange, Jason was raising the point because it
negates Tyner's own argument (which was wrong).
Re: Playing Piano Blindfolded
On Apr 13, 1:01 am, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> ophthalmologist:
>
> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> furniture.)
>
> How would you explain this?
>
> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
On Apr 13, 1:01 am, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I present this question for Mike Tyner or another conventional
> ophthalmologist:
>
> I can easily play complicated pieces of music on the piano with a
> blindfold on. (So, obviously I cannot "see" the keys.)
>
> It reminds me of how Mike Tyner talked about how blind people can
> easily find their way around a room. (They cannot "see" the pieces of
> furniture.)
>
> How would you explain this?
>
> (And to all the idiots on this site: Yes, I have a life; I am actually
> becoming a piano teacher in a few weeks at only 16-years-old.)
