Before Treatment

Before Treatment

I've scanned my old prescriptions below.

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Re: Before Treatment

On May 15, 1:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> I've scanned my old prescriptions below.
>
> http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2742/rx01qs9.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9007/rx02aw5.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9489/rx03xo0.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2372/rx04gc8.jpg

Our Zetsu's prescriptions are for a character named Iqbal Shaan. A
year ago I received the following email:

from: Shaan Iqbal <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail,com >
to: mikabrainy@gmail,com

date: Wed, May 16, 2007 at 4:00 AM
subject: 'Kaze is a fake'
mailed-by hotmail,com

hide details 5/16/07 Reply


Dear Ms. Brainy,
<snip>

The email was signed by "Kaze", which was the original name used by
"absolutelyinvincible", aka Zetsu and several dozens other names.
I then googled Shaan Iqbal and discovered she was a Pakistani belly
dancer or something like this.
Now Zetsu (the Brit who proclaims to be a Norweigian girl living in
the U.K.) is presenting "authentic" 2-yr old prescriptions for him/
herself, bearing the name of a Pakistani belly dancer, and wanting us
to believe they are his/her prescriptions "before the treatment", I
guess before s/he began palming, swinging and sunning.
Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her. Can anybody
do this?

Re: Before Treatment

On May 15, 3:29 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...@gmail,com > wrote:

> Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her. Can anybody
> do this?

Not I.

These just come under the heading of yet more unverifiable, third-hand
anecdotes from Atchoo.

Rather tiresome....

Re: Before Treatment

Even if the prescriptions were authentic and real, what would they
prove? That Iqbal had a certain Rx a few years ago? Big deal! There
are millions of corrective glasses prescriptions in the world every
year. How can it shed any light on the effectiveness of the Batesian
method or provide verification of its claims?


On May 15, 4:08 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 3:29 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
> > Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her.  Can anybody
> > do this?
>
> Not I.
>
> These just come under the heading of yet more unverifiable, third-hand
> anecdotes from Atchoo.
>
> Rather tiresome....

Re: Before Treatment

Good Zetsu,

Do you have your Visual Acuity measurement?

Perhaps you could check.

Just click here, and then on display several times. That will
give you 20/60.

http :// www .smbs.buffalo.edu/oph/ped/IVAC/IVAC.html

Naked eye, with the -1 diopter eye, you can probably read the
20/60 line (read 1/2 the letters to pass the line).

The -3.25 diopter will probably read 20/200 with no minus lens on.

Since you wish to be a scientist, why not read and report your
objective reading of your Snellen.

Thus as you do Bates, you can report how you eventually
reach PERFECT visual acuity.

Good luck,




On May 15, 4:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> I've scanned my old prescriptions below.
>
> http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2742/rx01qs9.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9007/rx02aw5.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9489/rx03xo0.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2372/rx04gc8.jpg

Re: Before Treatment

On May 15, 5:25 pm, otisbr...@embarqmail,com wrote:

> Thus as you do Bates, you can report how you eventually
> reach PERFECT visual acuity.

And if he does ... will you then start attacking YOUR 6d of myopia?

I mean ... for somebody claiming to know so much about the "dynamic
eye ..." being a high myope sort of assails your credibility, no?

Re: Before Treatment


Dear Zetsu,

You have posted almost endless remarks about Bates and his
wonderful ability to get you to clear your Snellen from
20/60 and 20/200 to normal.

Now, since you are a "convinced Bates person", you should
apply his concept to yourself, and, working very
hard with Bates, begin clearing your Snellen back
to normal.

This is an "acid test" for you. We will all cheer you
along as your report your Snellen clearing from
20/XXX to perfect.

Enjoy,





On May 15, 4:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> I've scanned my old prescriptions below.
>
> http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2742/rx01qs9.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9007/rx02aw5.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/9489/rx03xo0.jpg http :// img228.imageshack.us/img228/2372/rx04gc8.jpg

Re: Before Treatment


<otisbrown@embarqmail,com > wrote

>This is an "acid test" for you. We will all cheer you
>along as your report your Snellen clearing from
>20/XXX to perfect.

So "acid test" is the plural of "anecdote?"

-MT

Re: Before Treatment


Dear Mike,

Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.

Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.

As you, and other has stated, well, OK, Zetsu, go ahead
an clear your Snellen -- the way that Bates said.

You are not stopping him. I am not stopping him.
Babbling Brooks is not stopping him.

The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
Zetsu's responsibility.

Enjoy,



On May 16, 12:48 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring,com > wrote:
> <otisbr...@embarqmail,com > wrote
>
> >This is an "acid test" for you.  We will all cheer you
> >along as your report your Snellen clearing from
> >20/XXX to perfect.
>
> So "acid test" is the plural of "anecdote?"
>
> -MT

Re: Before Treatment

otisbrown@embarqmail,com wrote:
>Dear Mike,
>
>Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.
>
>Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
>
>snip>

>The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
>Zetsu's responsibility.
>
>Enjoy,
>

Are you floating in the clouds again Otis? Who said anything about
responsibility?

Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan. He didn't even provide any recent
questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
treatment or otherwise.

Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness. If it
was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
prescriptions.

BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
foreseeable future? Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?

--
MsBrainy

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http :// www .medkb,com /Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1

Re: Before Treatment


Dear Brainy,

Subject: Zetsu posting his Snellen.

I do hear a lot of "talk" about this issue -- from Bates followers.

They post there prescription.

I say, fine, now read this Snellen and post your Visual Acuity -- so
you have a STARTING POINT, and you can be empowered to
clear your Snellen.

They almost never do that.

So I am curious to see if Zetsu has the ability (and courage)
to:

1. Read his own Snellen and

2. Post the results.

What ever the results -- that would be a starting point for
Zetsu.

We should have his reading of his Snellen in a few days.

Or he is just blowing smoke.

Enjoy,




On May 16, 3:39 pm, "MsBrainy via MedKB,com " <u33689@uwe> wrote:
> otisbr...@embarqmail,com wrote:
> >Dear Mike,
>
> >Subject:  Zetsu -- the true believer.
>
> >Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
>
> >snip>
> >The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
> >Zetsu's responsibility.
>
> >Enjoy,
>
> Are you floating in the clouds again Otis?  Who said anything about
> responsibility?
>
> Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
> treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
> Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan.  He didn't even provide any recent
> questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
> treatment or otherwise.
>
> Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness.  If it
> was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
> be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
> prescriptions.
>
> BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
> foreseeable future?  Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
> yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?
>
> --
> MsBrainy
>
> Message posted via MedKB,com http :// www .medkb,com /Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1

Re: Before Treatment


We are waiting for Zetsu to:

1. Read his Snellen.

2. Report his Snellen.

3. And report his continued success in getting
his Snellen back to normal -- as he suggests
is possible.

That is it.

It will be interesting to hear him report his success -- that
he has the imagination to accomplish what he claims.

Enjoy,



On May 16, 3:39 pm, "MsBrainy via MedKB,com " <u33689@uwe> wrote:
> otisbr...@embarqmail,com wrote:
> >Dear Mike,
>
> >Subject:  Zetsu -- the true believer.
>
> >Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
>
> >snip>
> >The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
> >Zetsu's responsibility.
>
> >Enjoy,
>
> Are you floating in the clouds again Otis?  Who said anything about
> responsibility?
>
> Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
> treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
> Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan.  He didn't even provide any recent
> questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
> treatment or otherwise.
>
> Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness.  If it
> was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
> be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
> prescriptions.
>
> BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
> foreseeable future?  Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
> yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?
>
> --
> MsBrainy
>
> Message posted via MedKB,com http :// www .medkb,com /Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1

Re: Before Treatment

So ... all that 'Zetsu' must do is to make up stories, and Otis will
be satisfied.

Big surprise, that.

Welcome to the Dark Ages.