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Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Reply from: Dan Abel
Date: 16 Apr 2008, 00:05
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

In article <YLKdnY-CuPdcJpnVnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@giganews,com >,
"Mike Tyner" <mtyner@mindspring,com > wrote:

> "Zetsu" <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail,com > wrote
>
> > His findings with the retinoscope also stand the tests of experience.
> > People who have discarded their glasses and begin to cure their poor
> > eyesight notice dramatic changes in their quality of vision,
>
> This is crap. It only happens in your head, which as we know is full of
> crap.
>
> > on their emotional state and other factors. This is something that
> > will often vary little if glasses are worn, or go unnoticed if the
> > assumption is held that the quality of vision does not change both for
> > the worse and for the better depending on how the mind is being used.
>
> Believing this is "scientific" proves that your head is full of crap.
>
> > The variability of the quality of vision has become so obvious to such
> > people (including myself) that there is no need to question Bates's
> > accuracy with the retinoscope.
>
> Again you've swallowed crap, a cargo-cult explanation for accommodation.
>
> > The fact should be obvious to anyone
> > with perfect sight, as nobody with perfect sight has perfect sight all
> > of the time. - Kiesling
>
> It should be obvious to you that this is crap.
>
> Since it isn't, I'll continue pointing it out to you whenever crap leaks
> from your head. Should happen again, any moment now.

It's become increasingly obvious that these two kids do in fact know
that they are posting crap. They don't care. It's just a game to them,
pushing buttons of complete strangers to see what happens, safe in their
anonymity. TheOtherGuy even admitted that he was "too busy" to tell his
grandma that she really didn't need that cataract surgery that she
already has scheduled. Too busy? Maybe his cloak of anonymity would
fail when it came to his grandma, and he'd catch holy hell for playing
games with her?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic,net

Reply from: Jason Sperry
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 20:30
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

On Apr 14, 10:42 am, Jan <nos...@nospam.nl> wrote:
> Jason Sperry schreef:
>
> > LOL
>
> > JAN IS THE LAZIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.
>
> Did we met?

Yes. Wasn't it Peyton place?

Reply from: Jan
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 20:50
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Jason Sperry schreef:
> On Apr 14, 10:42 am, Jan <nos...@nospam.nl> wrote:
>> Jason Sperry schreef:
>>
>>> LOL
>>> JAN IS THE LAZIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.
>> Did we met?
>
> Yes. Wasn't it Peyton place?

You are that old?
Did you met, by any chance, Bates in person?

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Reply from: Jan
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 19:40
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Zetsu schreef:
> They are described in The Book.

Being an atheist and not familiar with The Book, which chapter?

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Reply from: Zetsu
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 19:44
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

On 14 Apr, 18:40, Jan <nos...@nospam.nl> wrote:
> Zetsu schreef:
>
> > They are described in The Book.
>
> Being an atheist and not familiar with The Book, which chapter?
>
> Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

They are scattered throughout the book, not just in any particular
chapter as such (as far as I remember). Please read the book here:

http :// en.wikisource.org/wiki/Perfect Sight Without Glasses

Reply from: Jan
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 20:06
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Zetsu schreef:
> On 14 Apr, 18:40, Jan <nos...@nospam.nl> wrote:
>> Zetsu schreef:
>>
>>> They are described in The Book.

>> Being an atheist and not familiar with The Book, which chapter?
>>
>> Jan (normally Dutch spoken)


>
> They are scattered throughout the book, not just in any particular
> chapter as such (as far as I remember). Please read the book here:
>

Why did you wrote "The Book" without capitals now, is it another book as
you did mentioned before?

Less important?

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Reply from: Zetsu
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 20:09
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Writing 'The Book' with capitals is just a joke I made up because I
think it's funny and makes it sound like a sacred artifact or
something. It's like how you call Neo 'The One' in the Matrix or 'The
One Ring to Rule Them All' in LoTR or 'The Prophesied One' in Star
Wars or 'The Boy Who Lived' in Harry Potter or, well, you get the
point.

Yeah, it's an important book, because it kind of summarizes Dr.Bates'
findings into a neat little package. It's also a necessary precursor
to commencing one's Cure Of Imperfect Sight (along with discarding
one's glasses) as it outlines all of the fundamental principles.You'll
see what I mean if you READ THE BOOK!

Reply from: Mike Tyner
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 21:03
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy


"Zetsu" <absolutelyinvincible@hotmail,com > wrote

> Yeah, it's an important book, because it kind of summarizes Dr.Bates'
> findings into a neat little package. It's also a necessary precursor
> to commencing one's Cure Of Imperfect Sight (along with discarding
> one's glasses) as it outlines all of the fundamental principles.You'll
> see what I mean if you READ THE BOOK!

I've read The Book very carefully. The Book is full of Crap.

The problem is you haven't enough education to know Crap when you see it.

-MT



Reply from: Jan
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 21:21
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

Zetsu schreef:
> Writing 'The Book' with capitals is just a joke I made up because I
> think it's funny and makes it sound like a sacred artifact or
> something.

You wrote "artifact", did you meant artefact?
That's just what the book is.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Reply from: Zetsu
Date: 15 Apr 2008, 15:15
Re: Simultaneous Retinoscopy

On 14 Apr, 20:21, Jan <nos...@nospam.nl> wrote:
> Zetsu schreef:
>
> > Writing 'The Book' with capitals is just a joke I made up because I
> > think it's funny and makes it sound like a sacred artifact or
> > something.
>
> You wrote "artifact", did you meant artefact?

I'm not sure, what's the difference?


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