How to perform retinoscopy

Re: How to perform retinoscopy


<otisbrown@embarqmail,com > wrote

> An ophthalmologist is a medical doctor first. With further
> training he qualifies for his title. He and all medical doctors
> are call "Doctors" -- if the subject is medical.

I believe you're going to find it isn't so in GB. Most doctors are "Mister"
and aluminum is aluminium and barbiturates are bar-bi-TUR-its.

-MT

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On 2 May, 21:44, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring,com > wrote:
> <otisbr...@embarqmail,com > wrote
>
> > An ophthalmologist is a medical doctor first. With further
> > training he qualifies for his title. He and all medical doctors
> > are call "Doctors" -- if the subject is medical.
>
> I believe you're going to find it isn't so in GB. Most doctors are "Mister"
> and aluminum is aluminium and barbiturates are bar-bi-TUR-its.
>
> -MT

It's so funny how you Americans call aluminium 'aLUUminum'!
In fact we were having a laugh about just that in an English class at
school a few weeks back.

By the way, I'm not sure what you mean that most doctors are 'Mister'
here. Personally I call doctors doctors and misters misters!

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On May 2, 2:43 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> On 2 May, 21:44, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring,com > wrote:
>
> > <otisbr...@embarqmail,com > wrote
>
> > > An ophthalmologist is a medical doctor first.  With further
> > > training he qualifies for his title.  He and all medical doctors
> > > are call "Doctors" -- if the subject is medical.
>
> > I believe you're going to find it isn't so in GB. Most doctors are "Mister"
> > and aluminum is aluminium and barbiturates are bar-bi-TUR-its.
>
> > -MT
>
> It's so funny how you Americans call aluminium 'aLUUminum'!
> In fact we were having a laugh about just that in an English class at
> school a few weeks back.
>
> By the way, I'm not sure what you mean that most doctors are 'Mister'
> here. Personally I call doctors doctors and misters misters!

Yeah, most *surgeons* or Mr/Mrs/Miss/Prof/etc. Most physicians are Dr/
Prof. Are ophthalmlogists surgeons, or physicians? GB has this
emerging specialty of medical ophthalmology, which is ophthalmology w/
o surgey. Although that removes all the fun.

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On 3 May, 08:30, douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 2, 2:43 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2 May, 21:44, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring,com > wrote:
>
> > > <otisbr...@embarqmail,com > wrote
>
> > > > An ophthalmologist is a medical doctor first. With further
> > > > training he qualifies for his title. He and all medical doctors
> > > > are call "Doctors" -- if the subject is medical.
>
> > > I believe you're going to find it isn't so in GB. Most doctors are "Mister"
> > > and aluminum is aluminium and barbiturates are bar-bi-TUR-its.
>
> > > -MT
>
> > It's so funny how you Americans call aluminium 'aLUUminum'!
> > In fact we were having a laugh about just that in an English class at
> > school a few weeks back.
>
> > By the way, I'm not sure what you mean that most doctors are 'Mister'
> > here. Personally I call doctors doctors and misters misters!
>
>Are ophthalmlogists surgeons, or physicians?

I suppose a lot of them would be both?

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On May 3, 5:33 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> On 3 May, 08:30, douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 2:43 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > > On 2 May, 21:44, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring,com > wrote:
>
> > > > <otisbr...@embarqmail,com > wrote
>
> > > > > An ophthalmologist is a medical doctor first.  With further
> > > > > training he qualifies for his title.  He and all medical doctors
> > > > > are call "Doctors" -- if the subject is medical.
>
> > > > I believe you're going to find it isn't so in GB. Most doctors are "Mister"
> > > > and aluminum is aluminium and barbiturates are bar-bi-TUR-its.
>
> > > > -MT
>
> > > It's so funny how you Americans call aluminium 'aLUUminum'!
> > > In fact we were having a laugh about just that in an English class at
> > > school a few weeks back.
>
> > > By the way, I'm not sure what you mean that most doctors are 'Mister'
> > > here. Personally I call doctors doctors and misters misters!
>
> >Are ophthalmlogists surgeons, or physicians?
>
> I suppose a lot of them would be both?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, but unlike Germany --where if you're a Mr/Mrs/Miss, a Dr, and a
Prof, you're adressed as Mr/Mrs/Miss Prof Dr [Full/Last Name]--,
you're addressed by your highest title, in that case, Prof...unless
you're also a Sir, where you're addressed as Prof Sir [First Name]...I
think.

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On May 1, 8:39 pm, douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com > wrote:
> O>
> So, a comparison of static retinoscopy and autorefraction is in order.
> Is SR better then AR, worse, or equal?

With cyclopleged eyes, they give about the same result. Glasses
prescriptions will usually be based on subjective refraction, not SR
or AR.

> Oh, and in England, if you're a consultant ophthalmologist and
> ophthalmic surgeon, and are named "Douglas K. Sartorius, DM, MCh,
> FRCP, FRCS, FRCOphth", are you addressed as "Doctor", or "Mister"?

You'll have to ask someone locally. I seem to remember that Mr
carries more prestige in England, and that professors of medicine are
called Mr, while mere run of the mill MDs are called Dr.

Judy

Re: How to perform retinoscopy

On 2 May, 05:19, douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:57 pm, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...@t.large> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 1 May 2008 20:13:59 -0700 (PDT), douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com >
> > wrote in
> > <news:5d244175-649c-4814-8eff-174204fe5074@d19g2000prm.googlegroups,com >:
>
> > > Well...thanks, but I most definitely am *not* entitled to use those
> > > postnominals...I'm only 16.5 years old --and am an undergrad at
> > > Cerritos College--, and I plan on being a medical doctor, either an
> > > internal medicine subspecialist, or an ophthalmologist. If I do become
> > > a medical ophthalmologist and/or ophthalmic surgeon, I'll most
> > > definitely try for those degrees and qualifications. And, since the
> > > fictional --merely shares my name--
>
> > Well, thank you - I DON'T think! - for so comprehensvely making a fool of
> > me. Quite a clever ruse - you should score high marks for disingenuity.
>
> > > consultant medical ophthalmologist and ophthalmic surgeon has a "DM"
> > > instead an "MD", and an "MCh", instead of a "ChM" that means he
> > > recieved his Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery, Doctor of Medicine, and
> > > Master of Surgery from The University of Oxford; erudite guy, he is.
> > > And, if I was who you were thinking of for that split second, why, pray
> > > tell, would I be asking *this* question, let alone on Usenet?
>
> > That question has already been answered.
>
> > > And I believe that Dr Sartorius is entitled to use the honorific of
> > > "Doctor", since FRCP is an older qualification --RCPLond established
> > > way before RCSEng--, thus it has higher precedence in the wonderfully
> > > long table of British honors, degrees, and qualifications, so FRCP
> > > outranks FRCS.
>
> > Not the easiest of things to keep up with from twenty-five thousand
> > kilometres away on the other side of the world! Though I did think the DM
> > and MCh were a little odd compared to the more usual (at least in this
> > part of the world) MD ChM or MB ChB - however you being in the UK and me
> > not, I thought it may have been some local custom.
>
> > > And what of my static retinoscopy vs. autorefractor question? Please
> > > answer this.
>
> > No. You will get no answer from me on this - I do not even pretend to
> > have any qualifications in the field of optometry.
>
> > --
> > - Nic.
>
> Um, I'm also in the USA...I just plan on studying medicine in the UK.

Wow! You can come visit me! I live in the UK!
Have you decided which Uni you want to apply for?

On 2 May, 05:18, Dr Judy <mpac...@rogers,com > wrote:
> On May 1, 8:39 pm, douglas <Protoman2...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
> > O>
> > So, a comparison of static retinoscopy and autorefraction is in order.
> > Is SR better then AR, worse, or equal?
>
> With cyclopleged eyes, they give about the same result. Glasses
> prescriptions will usually be based on subjective refraction, not SR
> or AR.
>
> > Oh, and in England, if you're a consultant ophthalmologist and
> > ophthalmic surgeon, and are named "Douglas K. Sartorius, DM, MCh,
> > FRCP, FRCS, FRCOphth", are you addressed as "Doctor", or "Mister"?
>
> You'll have to ask someone locally. I seem to remember that Mr
> carries more prestige in England, and that professors of medicine are
> called Mr, while mere run of the mill MDs are called Dr.
>
> Judy

Well, I am a local from the UK, and from my personal and experiential
perspective, 'Mister' is a lot less prestiguous sounding than
'Doctor'! But then we have other titles that are really high up, like
'Sir', or 'Lord', or 'Your Highness'. OK, I made the last one up.
Anyway, I doubt there's a lot of difference between here and the US. I
mean, it's us Brits who discovered your land in the first place isn't
it? Oh well, I can't remember (not a good historian).

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