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Most Survived The Study

Reply from: ironjustice@aol,com
Date: 19 May 2008, 07:05
Most Survived The Study

Guess what killed everybody.

"20 percent living through the end of the study."
"95 percent survived"

"Swank theorized that people with MS had been consuming far too much
saturated fat (found in meat).
He found that those eating low-fat diets (less than 20 grams daily)
suffered only "slight" myelin deterioration and 95 percent survived
the study. In contrast, 80 percent of the patients eating moderate to
high-fat diets (25 to 41 grams daily) had a serious progression of
their MS symptoms, with only 20 percent living through the end of the
study."


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
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Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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"95 percent survived the study. In contrast 80 percent had a serious
progression of their MS symptoms, with 20 percent living through the
end of the study."

http :// www .thenutritionreporter,com /MS-Polio of the 90s.html

Reply from: monty1945@lycos,com
Date: 19 May 2008, 20:38
Re: Most Survived The Study

Great example of how the phrase, "saturated fat," which has no precise
scientific meaning, can be "twisted" to support just about any
conclusion. The scientific reality (as opposed to this nonsense) is
that saturated fatty acids do not contribute to biochemical
instability, which is why they have been fed to pregnant animals and
can hinder the pregnancy (depending upon exact circumstances, and so
this claim is beyond silly. In fact, it is the combination of
unsaturated fatty acids in the meat (and of course many people now use
highly unsaturated oils to cook meat with, making it worse) and cooked
meat that generate very dangerous molecules, like HCAs. Thank for
this great example of what I call "saturated fat" scare tactics. I
will post it on my site, on the thread bearing this title.

My free site is at:

http :// groups.msn,com /TheScientificDebateForum-

Reply from: ironjustice@aol,com
Date: 20 May 2008, 05:52
Re: Most Survived The Study

On May 19, 11:38 am, monty1...@lycos,com wrote: Great example of how
the phrase , "saturated fat," <<

There could be a few ways this made a difference therein lies one of
the problems to me ..

Got something narrowed down a bit though.

Depends on what foods he used for the fats.

Say if he used chicken .. ?.. is that low fat .. ?

Could have to do with the viscosity and how high-fat meals increase
viscosity.
Hyperviscosity has already been shown to be associated with MS.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// tinyurl,com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk


>Great example of how the phrase, "saturated fat," which has no
precise
> scientific meaning, can be "twisted" to support just about any
> conclusion.  The scientific reality (as opposed to this nonsense) is
> that saturated fatty acids do not contribute to biochemical
> instability, which is why they have been fed to pregnant animals and
> can hinder the pregnancy (depending upon exact circumstances, and so
> this claim is beyond silly.  In fact, it is the combination of
> unsaturated fatty acids in the meat (and of course many people now use
> highly unsaturated oils to cook meat with, making it worse) and cooked
> meat that generate very dangerous molecules, like HCAs.  Thank for
> this great example of what I call "saturated fat" scare tactics.  I
> will post it on my site, on the thread bearing this title.
>
> My free site is at:
>
> http :// groups.msn,com /TheScientificDebateForum-


Reply from: Pramesh Rutaji
Date: 20 May 2008, 08:36
Re: Most Survived The Study

ironjustice@aol,com wrote:
> On May 19, 11:38 am, monty1...@lycos,com wrote: Great example of how
> the phrase , "saturated fat," <<
>
> There could be a few ways this made a difference therein lies one of
> the problems to me ..
>
> Got something narrowed down a bit though.
>
> Depends on what foods he used for the fats.
>
> Say if he used chicken .. ?.. is that low fat .. ?
>
> Could have to do with the viscosity and how high-fat meals increase
> viscosity.
> Hyperviscosity has already been shown to be associated with MS.
>
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom

Tom, your logic reminds me of a song:


Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
How absurd, to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die

There was an old lady who swallowed a cat.
Imagine that, she swallowed a cat.
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die

There was an old lady who swallowed a dog.
What a hog!To swallow a dog!
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a goat.
Just opened her throat and swallowed a goat!
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog ...
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat.
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a cow.
I don't know how she swallowed a cow!
She swallowed the cow to catch the goat...
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog...
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a horse -
She's dead, of course.


--

Pramesh Rutaji

p297tongue6221@newsguy,com - remove tongue to reply

Reply from: ironjustice@aol,com
Date: 20 May 2008, 15:19
Re: Most Survived The Study

On May 19, 11:36 pm, Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6...@newsguy,com >
wrote:your logic reminds me of a song <<

Finally .. SOMEONE ..bursts out in .. song ..


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// tinyurl,com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk





> ironjust...@aol,com wrote:
> > On May 19, 11:38 am, monty1...@lycos,com wrote: Great example of how
> > the phrase , "saturated fat," <<
>
> > There could be a few ways this made a difference therein lies one of
> > the problems to me ..
>
> > Got something narrowed down a bit though.
>
> > Depends on what foods he used for the fats.
>
> > Say if he used chicken .. ?.. is that low fat .. ?
>
> > Could have to do with the viscosity and how high-fat meals increase
> > viscosity.
> > Hyperviscosity has already been shown to be associated with MS.
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> Tom, your logic reminds me of a song:
>
> Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
> I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
> How absurd, to swallow a bird!
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
> Perhaps she'll die
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a cat.
> Imagine that, she swallowed a cat.
> She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
> Perhaps she'll die
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a dog.
> What a hog!To swallow a dog!
> She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
> She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a goat.
> Just opened her throat and swallowed a goat!
> She swallowed the goat to catch the dog ...
> She swallowed the dog to catch the cat.
> She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a cow.
> I don't know how she swallowed a cow!
> She swallowed the cow to catch the goat...
> She swallowed the goat to catch the dog...
> She swallowed the dog to catch the cat...
> She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and wiggled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> There was an old lady who swallowed a horse -
> She's dead, of course.
>
> --
>
> Pramesh Rutaji
>
> p297tongue6...@newsguy,com - remove tongue to reply- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Reply from: drceephd@insightbb,com
Date: 20 May 2008, 16:50
Re: Most Survived The Study

On May 19, 1:05 am, "ironjust...@aol,com " <ironjust...@aol,com > wrote:
> Guess what killed everybody.
>
> "20 percent living through the end of the study."
> "95 percent survived"
>
> "Swank theorized that people with MS had been consuming far too much
> saturated fat (found in meat).
> He found that those eating low-fat diets (less than 20 grams daily)
> suffered only "slight" myelin deterioration and 95 percent survived
> the study. In contrast, 80 percent of the patients eating moderate to
> high-fat diets (25 to 41 grams daily) had a serious progression of
> their MS symptoms, with only 20 percent living through the end of the
> study."
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// tinyurl,com /2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> "95 percent survived the study. In contrast 80 percent had a serious
> progression of their MS symptoms, with 20 percent living through the
> end of the study."
>
> http :// www .thenutritionreporter,com /MS-Polio of the 90s.html

You may find this interview between Dr. John McDougall and Dr. Swank
to be of value:
http :// www .drmcdougall,com /res swank.html

This interview and research proves once again that nearly all disease
is dis-ease. The ultimate cause of all dis-ease is nutrition and
lifestyle...mind,body, and spirit.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

Reply from: D. C. Sessions
Date: 20 May 2008, 17:05
Re: Most Survived The Study

In message <1c0d7cfd-aa71-48df-8b91-1024e1469df2@k13g2000hse.googlegroups,com >, drceephd@insightbb,com wrote:

> This interview and research proves once again that nearly all disease
> is dis-ease.  The ultimate cause of all dis-ease is nutrition and
> lifestyle...mind,body, and spirit.

Which of those cause prairie dogs to die of plague?

--
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel,com > ---------+




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