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Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 21 May 2008, 02:36
Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
humanity and hence is illegal under international law.

This post is directed at those medical professionals who enjoy
litigation.

To understand genocide and crimes against humanity you need to read
and understand, Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the
Crime of Genocide,
http :// www .hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html


Article 1
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in
time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law
which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts
committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article 3
The following acts shall be punishable:

(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.

Article 4
Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in
Article 3 shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally
responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals. ///

To understand the connection between legalized abortion and eugenics/
genocide you need to read and understand,

http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized abortion and crime effect

Legalized abortion and crime effect

The legalized abortion and crime effect is the controversial theory
that legal abortion reduces crime. Proponents of the theory generally
argue that "unwanted children" are more likely to become criminals and
that an inverse correlation is observed between the availability of
abortion and subsequent crime. In particular, it is argued that the
legalization of abortion in the United States, largely due to the
Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, has reduced crime in recent
years. ... ///

[snipped for brevity, please read full article and supporting original
literature]

Hence, legalized abortion is eugenics/genocide. Genocide is a heinous
crime against humanity and is illegal under international law.
Legalized abortion is illegal. Happy litigating.

Reply from: Spartakus
Date: 21 May 2008, 03:09
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

nico...@hushmail,com wrote:

> Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime
> against humanity and hence is illegal under international law.

[--yadda, yadda, yadda--]

Doesn't genocide usually involve a large number of people in a
coordinated effort to kill large numbers of other people? What does
that have to do with individual women making decisions about their own
reproductive destinies?

Reply from: Paul Anderson
Date: 21 May 2008, 03:54
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:36:03 -0700 (PDT), nicovar@hushmail,com wrote:

>... genocide means any of the following acts
>committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
>ethnical, racial or religious group....

Neither the poor nor criminals are "a national, ethnical, racial or
religious group."

>To understand the connection between legalized abortion and eugenics/
>genocide you need to read and understand,
>
> http :// en.wikipedia....

Wikipedia is in no way a credible source for anything.

>Hence, legalized abortion is eugenics/genocide.....

Legalized abortion *reduces* the actual abortion rate. People in the
medical profession, for the most part, know this. Which is why, for
the most part, they support legal abortion.

You are arguing that less killing is more killing. You are stupid.

Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 21 May 2008, 07:19
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On May 20, 6:54 pm, elcoy...@netzero,net (Paul Anderson) wrote:

> You are stupid.

You must be a proctologist, asshole.


Reply from: Paul Anderson
Date: 21 May 2008, 15:00
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:19:40 -0700 (PDT), nicovar@hushmail,com wrote:

>On May 20, 6:54=A0pm, elcoy...@netzero,net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
>
>> You are stupid.
>
>You must be a proctologist, asshole.

You deleted the proof of your stupidity. You are also dishonest.

I have noticed that when trying to discuss the abortion issue the
Pro-Lifers always revert to lies and insults.

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Reply from: Shawn Hirn
Date: 22 May 2008, 12:17
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

In article
<15fff690-887a-428e-a916-ee79b19d02c2@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com >,
nicovar@hushmail,com wrote:

> Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
> humanity and hence is illegal under international law.
>
> This post is directed at those medical professionals who enjoy
> litigation.

Medical professionals who "enjoy litigation?" There's no such thing.

Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 22 May 2008, 18:38
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On May 22, 3:17 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast,net > wrote:
> In article
> <15fff690-887a-428e-a916-ee79b19d0...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com >,
>
>  nico...@hushmail,com wrote:
> > Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
> > humanity and hence is illegal under international law.
>
> > This post is directed at those medical professionals who enjoy
> > litigation.
>
> Medical professionals who "enjoy litigation?" There's no such thing.

There are two ways to avoid litigatiion:

1) Know the law.

2) Don't get caught.

Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 22 May 2008, 19:03
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On May 22, 9:38 am, nico...@hushmail,com wrote:
> On May 22, 3:17 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast,net > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <15fff690-887a-428e-a916-ee79b19d0...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups,com >,
>
> >  nico...@hushmail,com wrote:
> > > Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
> > > humanity and hence is illegal under international law.
>
> > > This post is directed at those medical professionals who enjoy
> > > litigation.
>
> > Medical professionals who "enjoy litigation?" There's no such thing.
>
> There are two ways to avoid litigatiion:
>
> 1) Know the law.
>
> 2) Don't get caught.

One last comment.

Only rarely is the work of a medical professional tainted with a
charge of genocide. Two examples come to mind. A) Josef Mengele and B)
The other guy in Austria who killed 700 children in Austria during
WWII in the conduct of medical experiments. (He will go unnamed
because he is still alive.)

In the case of Josef Mengele, caveat 1) does not apply because the
crime of genocide did not exist at the time he committed genocide and
as for caveat 2) Megele went to his grave uncaught and unconvicted and
hence he went straight to Hell.

In the case of the "other guy" who cannot be named, caveat 1) also
applies, but caveat 2) is another story. He went to trial after a
long, happy and productive career in Austria. At trial he was found to
be senile and so the case was dismissed. It will never be known if he
will go to Hell when he dies.

Reply from: Ray Fischer
Date: 25 May 2008, 04:28
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

<nicovar@hushmail,com > wrote:
>Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against

Stupid asshole.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic,net


Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 25 May 2008, 04:32
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On May 24, 7:28 pm, rfisc...@sonic,net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>  <nico...@hushmail,com > wrote:
> >Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
>
> Stupid asshole.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer        
> rfisc...@sonic,net  

Illiterate jerk

Reply from: Ray Fischer
Date: 25 May 2008, 08:08
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

<nicovar@hushmail,com > wrote:
>On May 24, 7:28 pm, rfisc...@sonic,net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>  <nico...@hushmail,com > wrote:
>> >Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
>>
>> Stupid asshole.
>
>Illiterate jerk

I know what words mean, asshole, and abortion is not and cannot be
genocide or murder.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic,net


Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 25 May 2008, 17:35
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

On May 24, 11:08 pm, rfisc...@sonic,net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>  <nico...@hushmail,com > wrote:
> >On May 24, 7:28 pm, rfisc...@sonic,net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>  <nico...@hushmail,com > wrote:
> >> >Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against
>
> >> Stupid asshole.
>
> >Illiterate jerk
>
> I know what words mean, asshole, and abortion is not and cannot be
> genocide or murder.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer        
> rfisc...@sonic,net  

You do not have average reading comprehension. Read the subject line.
Trying reading it aloud

Reply from: nicovar@hushmail,com
Date: 25 May 2008, 22:02
Re: Legalized abortion is a form of eugenics/genocide and is crime against humanity

> > >> Stupid asshole.
>
> > >Illiterate jerk
>
> > I know what words mean, asshole, and abortion is not and cannot be
> > genocide or murder.
.
> You do not have average reading comprehension. Read the subject line.
> Try reading it aloud.

I seem to have generated some acromony by posting an a legalistic
theme which is rather vague. Being a legalist concept, the theme of
this post should be either accepted or rejected on legalistic grounds.
I had better post the preamble of the genoccide convention so that the
legalistic theme can be better understood:

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by
General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948
entry into force 12 January 1951, in accordance with article XIII

The Contracting Parties,
Having considered the declaration made by the General Assembly of the
United Nations in its resolution 96 (I) dated 11 December 1946 that
genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit
and aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world,

Recognizing that at all periods of history genocide has inflicted
great losses on humanity, and

Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such an odious
scourge, international co-operation is required,

Hereby agree as hereinafter provided:

Article 1

The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in
time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law
which they undertake to prevent and to punish.


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