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The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
(including Amazon)!
This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
those aspects of your life and much much more!
The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
* w w w .evolution-diet . com
I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
(including Amazon)!
This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
those aspects of your life and much much more!
The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
* w w w .evolution-diet . com
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 17, 6:58=A0pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
> Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
> (including Amazon)!
>
> This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
> studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
> it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
> the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
> out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
> balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
> those aspects of your life and much much more!
>
> The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
> of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
> the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
> section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
>
> I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> * w w w .evolution-diet . com
It looks like a photo of some sort of grilled meat on the link. I'll
buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93evolved=94 =
to
benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
of various fruit. Just the protein overdose alone from meat doesn=92t
seem to provide nutritional advantage to trade available fruit for
meat. "Human milk has the lowest protein concentration (about 7% of
energy) of any primate milk that has been studied (Oftedal, 1984). So
it would seem chimps (naturally producing 2.8 times the human protein
concentration in breast milk, Buss et al., 1976) need more grilled
meat than H. Sapiens.
Can anyone provide a morphological hypothesis explaining how H.
Sapiens evolved or adapted to the point that eating red meat was not a
compromise to fruit (if available) within the last 600,000 yrs? Before
this point it seems meat was an unreliable peripheral food after root
veg. I'm still looking for ANY evidence H. Sapiens ADAPTED to benefit
more from meat than a variety of fruit. Perhaps the book provides a
treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading.
Deglaciating & detoxing after the Ice Age,
Chris
On Apr 17, 6:58=A0pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
> Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
> (including Amazon)!
>
> This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
> studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
> it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
> the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
> out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
> balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
> those aspects of your life and much much more!
>
> The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
> of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
> the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
> section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
>
> I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> * w w w .evolution-diet . com
It looks like a photo of some sort of grilled meat on the link. I'll
buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93evolved=94 =
to
benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
of various fruit. Just the protein overdose alone from meat doesn=92t
seem to provide nutritional advantage to trade available fruit for
meat. "Human milk has the lowest protein concentration (about 7% of
energy) of any primate milk that has been studied (Oftedal, 1984). So
it would seem chimps (naturally producing 2.8 times the human protein
concentration in breast milk, Buss et al., 1976) need more grilled
meat than H. Sapiens.
Can anyone provide a morphological hypothesis explaining how H.
Sapiens evolved or adapted to the point that eating red meat was not a
compromise to fruit (if available) within the last 600,000 yrs? Before
this point it seems meat was an unreliable peripheral food after root
veg. I'm still looking for ANY evidence H. Sapiens ADAPTED to benefit
more from meat than a variety of fruit. Perhaps the book provides a
treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading.
Deglaciating & detoxing after the Ice Age,
Chris
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
and just looks at blood sugar control a high protein low carb
diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
And of course for this diet to have itsr best
effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
little lady and your kids..
Fruit isn't a balanced food and if one has syndrome X or
type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
and just looks at blood sugar control a high protein low carb
diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
And of course for this diet to have itsr best
effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
little lady and your kids..
Fruit isn't a balanced food and if one has syndrome X or
type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
<trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
> low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
Weight"?
> And of course for this diet to have itsr best
> effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
> run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
> little lady and your kids..
I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
meat eating than before depleted habitat.
> Fruit isn't a balanced food
I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
"balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph balance?
Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
reverses many diseases associated with meat.
and if one has syndrome X or
> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
"Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
Medicine
Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
"Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
"Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
2004
And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
addictions.
> Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
"situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
So are the "dried forms" of meat.
Sustainably,
Chris
On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
<trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
> low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
Weight"?
> And of course for this diet to have itsr best
> effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
> run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
> little lady and your kids..
I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
meat eating than before depleted habitat.
> Fruit isn't a balanced food
I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
"balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph balance?
Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
reverses many diseases associated with meat.
and if one has syndrome X or
> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
"Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
Medicine
Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
"Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
"Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
2004
And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
addictions.
> Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
"situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
So are the "dried forms" of meat.
Sustainably,
Chris
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
>
> <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> > If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
>
> and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
> finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
> closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
> adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
> available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
>
> > low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
>
> Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
> So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
> Weight"?
>
> > And of course for this diet to have itsr best
> > effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
> > run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
> > little lady and your kids..
>
> I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
> effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
> while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
> hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
> time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
> provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
> would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
> expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
> foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
> successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
> breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
> fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
> meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
> availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
> meat eating than before depleted habitat.
>
> > Fruit isn't a balanced food
>
> I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
> sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
> "balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph
> balance?
That was less than clear wasn't it. First, while think coconut
if a fine food, it call it a NUT not a fruit. And fruit is low
in protein in ratio to calories and even volume.
> Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
> of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
> reverses many diseases associated with meat.
>
> and if one has syndrome X or> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar =
levels.
>
> Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
> "Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
> with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
> Medicine
> Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
Bananas and citrus do a pretty good job
of spiking blood glucose levels. Most people
eat really poorly. White bread, corn syrup,
sucrose, etc.
>
> "Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
> red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
>
> "Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
> associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
> amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
> 2004
> And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
> alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
> addictions.
>
> > Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
>
> But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
> situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
> fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
> this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
> in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
> "situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
There various senerios one can spin. For example some
argue that feeding along the coast for marine foods and
in fresh water lakes was even important in rather deep time
in Africa. And as I dimly recall in the French
caves there is evidence of the use of this
resource as well as drawings of ancient mega fauna.
Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
to high starch diets. This isn't a line of argument
I feel informed by.
>
> > And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
>
> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
just "uneducated" meat eating.
>
> Sustainably,
> Chris
On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
>
> <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> > If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
>
> and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
> finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
> closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
> adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
> available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
>
> > low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
>
> Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
> So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
> Weight"?
>
> > And of course for this diet to have itsr best
> > effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
> > run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
> > little lady and your kids..
>
> I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
> effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
> while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
> hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
> time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
> provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
> would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
> expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
> foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
> successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
> breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
> fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
> meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
> availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
> meat eating than before depleted habitat.
>
> > Fruit isn't a balanced food
>
> I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
> sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
> "balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph
> balance?
That was less than clear wasn't it. First, while think coconut
if a fine food, it call it a NUT not a fruit. And fruit is low
in protein in ratio to calories and even volume.
> Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
> of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
> reverses many diseases associated with meat.
>
> and if one has syndrome X or> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar =
levels.
>
> Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
> "Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
> with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
> Medicine
> Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
Bananas and citrus do a pretty good job
of spiking blood glucose levels. Most people
eat really poorly. White bread, corn syrup,
sucrose, etc.
>
> "Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
> red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
>
> "Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
> associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
> amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
> 2004
> And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
> alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
> addictions.
>
> > Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
>
> But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
> situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
> fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
> this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
> in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
> "situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
There various senerios one can spin. For example some
argue that feeding along the coast for marine foods and
in fresh water lakes was even important in rather deep time
in Africa. And as I dimly recall in the French
caves there is evidence of the use of this
resource as well as drawings of ancient mega fauna.
Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
to high starch diets. This isn't a line of argument
I feel informed by.
>
> > And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
>
> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
just "uneducated" meat eating.
>
> Sustainably,
> Chris
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
> > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
> to high starch diets.
Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
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DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
Published: September 10, 2007
"Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
eat a low-starch diet.
The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
converting enzyme"
Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
Chris
> > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
> to high starch diets.
Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Reprints Share
DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
Published: September 10, 2007
"Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
eat a low-starch diet.
The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
converting enzyme"
Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
Chris
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 20, 4:31 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> > > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
> > to high starch diets.
>
> Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
> Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Reprints Share
> DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
> Published: September 10, 2007
>
> "Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
> like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
> starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
> eat a low-starch diet.
>
> The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
> have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
> converting enzyme"
>
> Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
> Chris
It is my understanding from reading on the subject on McDougall's
website that humans have more genes for amylase production than that
of our closest primate relatives. There are about three isolated
tribes, one in the far north and two in africa that McDougall mentions
that do not have these genes (or very few). I believe he also says
that if you don't eat carbs then the amylase production decreases.
Possibly this sets up a cycle--eat less carbs, amylase decreases, lack
of amylase makes it difficult to eat carbs and not have a blood sugar
spike. Perhaps this is why Atkins told his dieters to go off their
high fat low carb diets a week before they had a glucose tolerance
test, otherwise they would test diabetic.
I have read elsewhere that fruitarians are subject to dangerously high
uric acid levels. It is also doubtful that the fruit our evolutionary
ancestors ate was as sweet or as large as the scientifically bred
modern fruit in the grocery store. While our ancestors were probably
scavengers until they developed lethal hunting weapons and techniques,
they probably dined on small rodents, insects and other sources of
animal protein before we as a species developed a taste for prime
rib. The "Paleolithic Diet" describes present day primitive diets as
ranging anywhere from twenty per cent carbs to eighty per cent carbs.
When you are hungry you will eat whatever you can get from your
environment. Nature designed us to sustain ourselves with what is
available so that we can reach reproductive age, reproduce and nurture
young. It seems our interest now is in healthy longevity. Almost an
anti evolutionary project. My own regular diet now is fruit,
vegetables, beans, grains, fish, a few nuts and seeds and a very
little olive oil on salads. Meat is a treat sometimes if I eat out.
It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
Dolores
On Apr 20, 4:31 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> > > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
> > to high starch diets.
>
> Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
> Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Reprints Share
> DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
> Published: September 10, 2007
>
> "Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
> like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
> starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
> eat a low-starch diet.
>
> The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
> have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
> converting enzyme"
>
> Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
> Chris
It is my understanding from reading on the subject on McDougall's
website that humans have more genes for amylase production than that
of our closest primate relatives. There are about three isolated
tribes, one in the far north and two in africa that McDougall mentions
that do not have these genes (or very few). I believe he also says
that if you don't eat carbs then the amylase production decreases.
Possibly this sets up a cycle--eat less carbs, amylase decreases, lack
of amylase makes it difficult to eat carbs and not have a blood sugar
spike. Perhaps this is why Atkins told his dieters to go off their
high fat low carb diets a week before they had a glucose tolerance
test, otherwise they would test diabetic.
I have read elsewhere that fruitarians are subject to dangerously high
uric acid levels. It is also doubtful that the fruit our evolutionary
ancestors ate was as sweet or as large as the scientifically bred
modern fruit in the grocery store. While our ancestors were probably
scavengers until they developed lethal hunting weapons and techniques,
they probably dined on small rodents, insects and other sources of
animal protein before we as a species developed a taste for prime
rib. The "Paleolithic Diet" describes present day primitive diets as
ranging anywhere from twenty per cent carbs to eighty per cent carbs.
When you are hungry you will eat whatever you can get from your
environment. Nature designed us to sustain ourselves with what is
available so that we can reach reproductive age, reproduce and nurture
young. It seems our interest now is in healthy longevity. Almost an
anti evolutionary project. My own regular diet now is fruit,
vegetables, beans, grains, fish, a few nuts and seeds and a very
little olive oil on salads. Meat is a treat sometimes if I eat out.
It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
Dolores
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 22, 3:25 am, dorsy1943 <dtm...@usadatanet . net > wrote:
>
> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Dolores
Which I find ironic in that I am coming doubt regular
fruit intake is an ideal as least for my very late
middle aged body age 59 (soon to be just plain old).
On Apr 22, 3:25 am, dorsy1943 <dtm...@usadatanet . net > wrote:
>
> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Dolores
Which I find ironic in that I am coming doubt regular
fruit intake is an ideal as least for my very late
middle aged body age 59 (soon to be just plain old).
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
trigonometry1972@gmail . com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 3:25 am, Dolores wrote:
>
>> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
>> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Which I find ironic in that I am coming [to] doubt regular
> fruit intake is an ideal as least for my very late
> middle aged body age 59 (soon to be just plain old).
I couldn't disagree more, Trig! You need that fiber, potassium,
vitamin C, various pigments, and other phytochemicals, if only to keep
your skin, muscles, connective tissues, and digestive tract healthy.
It's true that fruit seems rather expensive as a source, mainly, of
sugar and water, but all the longevity folk agree it's good for you.
And though the effectiveness of fruit-derived antioxidants seems to
be hard to prove, there are plenty of elderly celebrities who look
incredibly young, and attribute it to fruit and those expensive
fruit-based skin creams.
My mother went to school with Barbara Walters, so I know she was born
around 1921. I haven't asked her how she stays in shape, but I bet it's
like everybody else, and I've heard her deny ever having had any plastic
surgery. I bet she just eats right and lives healthy. There are no
secrets, no hidden agendas. It's just a matter of taking care of
yourself and giving in to the right temptations, not the wrong ones!
How soon will you be getting old, now that you're almost halfway through?
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
trigonometry1972@gmail . com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 3:25 am, Dolores wrote:
>
>> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
>> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Which I find ironic in that I am coming [to] doubt regular
> fruit intake is an ideal as least for my very late
> middle aged body age 59 (soon to be just plain old).
I couldn't disagree more, Trig! You need that fiber, potassium,
vitamin C, various pigments, and other phytochemicals, if only to keep
your skin, muscles, connective tissues, and digestive tract healthy.
It's true that fruit seems rather expensive as a source, mainly, of
sugar and water, but all the longevity folk agree it's good for you.
And though the effectiveness of fruit-derived antioxidants seems to
be hard to prove, there are plenty of elderly celebrities who look
incredibly young, and attribute it to fruit and those expensive
fruit-based skin creams.
My mother went to school with Barbara Walters, so I know she was born
around 1921. I haven't asked her how she stays in shape, but I bet it's
like everybody else, and I've heard her deny ever having had any plastic
surgery. I bet she just eats right and lives healthy. There are no
secrets, no hidden agendas. It's just a matter of taking care of
yourself and giving in to the right temptations, not the wrong ones!
How soon will you be getting old, now that you're almost halfway through?
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
dorsy1943 wrote:
> On Apr 20, 4:31 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
>> > > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
>>> to high starch diets.
>> Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
>> Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Reprints Share
>> DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
>> Published: September 10, 2007
>>
>> "Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
>> like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
>> starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
>> eat a low-starch diet.
>>
>> The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
>> have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
>> converting enzyme"
>>
>> Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
>> Chris
>
> It is my understanding from reading on the subject on McDougall's
> website that humans have more genes for amylase production than that
> of our closest primate relatives. There are about three isolated
> tribes, one in the far north and two in africa that McDougall mentions
> that do not have these genes (or very few). I believe he also says
> that if you don't eat carbs then the amylase production decreases.
> Possibly this sets up a cycle--eat less carbs, amylase decreases, lack
> of amylase makes it difficult to eat carbs and not have a blood sugar
> spike. Perhaps this is why Atkins told his dieters to go off their
> high fat low carb diets a week before they had a glucose tolerance
> test, otherwise they would test diabetic.
Without amylase, you won't absorb starches. The main amylases (the
only ones I know of, but intestinal flora might have their own) are
salivary ("ptyalin") and pancreatic (I forget the name). You need zinc,
I think, to make them.
Starches are absorbed mostly in the jejunum, IIRC.
You shouldn't get an insulin spike from starches unless you've got
enough amylase to break them down into sugars -- but you might get
indigestion.
> I have read elsewhere that fruitarians are subject to dangerously high
> uric acid levels. It is also doubtful that the fruit our evolutionary
> ancestors ate was as sweet or as large as the scientifically bred
> modern fruit in the grocery store. While our ancestors were probably
> scavengers until they developed lethal hunting weapons and techniques,
> they probably dined on small rodents, insects and other sources of
> animal protein before we as a species developed a taste for prime
> rib.
Personally, my last choice would be mammals when there are fish,
reptiles, amphibians, birds, and invertebrates to be had. Save an
iguana tail for me! ;-)
> The "Paleolithic Diet" describes present day primitive diets as
> ranging anywhere from twenty per cent carbs to eighty per cent carbs.
> When you are hungry you will eat whatever you can get from your
> environment. Nature designed us to sustain ourselves with what is
> available so that we can reach reproductive age, reproduce and nurture
> young. It seems our interest now is in healthy longevity. Almost an
> anti evolutionary project. My own regular diet now is fruit,
> vegetables, beans, grains, fish, a few nuts and seeds and a very
> little olive oil on salads. Meat is a treat sometimes if I eat out.
>
> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Dolores
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
dorsy1943 wrote:
> On Apr 20, 4:31 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
>> > > <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Some even argue some Asians are better adapted
>>> to high starch diets.
>> Study Finds Evidence of Genetic Response to Diet
>> Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Reprints Share
>> DiggFacebookMixxYahoo! BuzzPermalinkBy NICHOLAS WADE
>> Published: September 10, 2007
>>
>> "Researchers studying the enzyme that converts starch to simple sugars
>> like glucose have found that people living in countries with a high-
>> starch diet produce considerably more of the enzyme than people who
>> eat a low-starch diet.
>>
>> The reason is an evolutionary one. People in high-starch countries
>> have many extra copies of the amylase gene which makes the starch-
>> converting enzyme"
>>
>> Hunting for a reason to hunt while gathering reasons not to,
>> Chris
>
> It is my understanding from reading on the subject on McDougall's
> website that humans have more genes for amylase production than that
> of our closest primate relatives. There are about three isolated
> tribes, one in the far north and two in africa that McDougall mentions
> that do not have these genes (or very few). I believe he also says
> that if you don't eat carbs then the amylase production decreases.
> Possibly this sets up a cycle--eat less carbs, amylase decreases, lack
> of amylase makes it difficult to eat carbs and not have a blood sugar
> spike. Perhaps this is why Atkins told his dieters to go off their
> high fat low carb diets a week before they had a glucose tolerance
> test, otherwise they would test diabetic.
Without amylase, you won't absorb starches. The main amylases (the
only ones I know of, but intestinal flora might have their own) are
salivary ("ptyalin") and pancreatic (I forget the name). You need zinc,
I think, to make them.
Starches are absorbed mostly in the jejunum, IIRC.
You shouldn't get an insulin spike from starches unless you've got
enough amylase to break them down into sugars -- but you might get
indigestion.
> I have read elsewhere that fruitarians are subject to dangerously high
> uric acid levels. It is also doubtful that the fruit our evolutionary
> ancestors ate was as sweet or as large as the scientifically bred
> modern fruit in the grocery store. While our ancestors were probably
> scavengers until they developed lethal hunting weapons and techniques,
> they probably dined on small rodents, insects and other sources of
> animal protein before we as a species developed a taste for prime
> rib.
Personally, my last choice would be mammals when there are fish,
reptiles, amphibians, birds, and invertebrates to be had. Save an
iguana tail for me! ;-)
> The "Paleolithic Diet" describes present day primitive diets as
> ranging anywhere from twenty per cent carbs to eighty per cent carbs.
> When you are hungry you will eat whatever you can get from your
> environment. Nature designed us to sustain ourselves with what is
> available so that we can reach reproductive age, reproduce and nurture
> young. It seems our interest now is in healthy longevity. Almost an
> anti evolutionary project. My own regular diet now is fruit,
> vegetables, beans, grains, fish, a few nuts and seeds and a very
> little olive oil on salads. Meat is a treat sometimes if I eat out.
>
> It isn't clear to me if Chris is suggesting a fruitarian diet or
> simply adding fruit to one's regular diet.
>
> Dolores
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
trigonometry1972@gmail . com | wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
>>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
>> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
> raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
> meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
> some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
> just "uneducated" meat eating.
Oh, boy!
Kidneys! Liver! Heart!
Mussels! Barely-digested oysters! Seaweed!
(I bet they really enjoyed the occasional wild onion, though.
Scurvy's no fun.)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
trigonometry1972@gmail . com | wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
>>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
>> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
> raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
> meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
> some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
> just "uneducated" meat eating.
Oh, boy!
Kidneys! Liver! Heart!
Mussels! Barely-digested oysters! Seaweed!
(I bet they really enjoyed the occasional wild onion, though.
Scurvy's no fun.)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 27, 2:12 pm, Marshall Price <d0213...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> trigonometry1...@gmail . com | wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> >> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
> >>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
> >> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> > Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
> > raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
> > meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
> > some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
> > just "uneducated" meat eating.
>
> Oh, boy!
>
> Kidneys! Liver! Heart!
>
> Mussels! Barely-digested oysters! Seaweed!
>
> (I bet they really enjoyed the occasional wild onion, though.
> Scurvy's no fun.)
>
> --
> Marshall Price of Miami
> Known to Yahoo as d021317c
The adrenal gland which is found in the fat around the top of
the kidneys is loaded with vitamin C. I'd assume
the raw meat and fat they ate contained at least
a little vitamin C. And yes the Inuit did go
to some lengths for plant foods such as
robbbing the stashes of squirrels. I
no doubt blueberries would have be
prized. I'd assume the ate some greens.
The Eskimo/Inuit survived while the white explorers
(English 19th explorers and earlier) and white settlers (Norse in
Greenland) perished from scurvy and rickets.
On Apr 27, 2:12 pm, Marshall Price <d0213...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> trigonometry1...@gmail . com | wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 12:38 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> >> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
> >>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
> >> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> > Indeed. The Eskimo/Inuit have eaten stomach contents,
> > raw meat, and the adrenals beyond eating just simple
> > meat or fish. Some of these things have at least
> > some vitamin C and other micronutrients beyond
> > just "uneducated" meat eating.
>
> Oh, boy!
>
> Kidneys! Liver! Heart!
>
> Mussels! Barely-digested oysters! Seaweed!
>
> (I bet they really enjoyed the occasional wild onion, though.
> Scurvy's no fun.)
>
> --
> Marshall Price of Miami
> Known to Yahoo as d021317c
The adrenal gland which is found in the fat around the top of
the kidneys is loaded with vitamin C. I'd assume
the raw meat and fat they ate contained at least
a little vitamin C. And yes the Inuit did go
to some lengths for plant foods such as
robbbing the stashes of squirrels. I
no doubt blueberries would have be
prized. I'd assume the ate some greens.
The Eskimo/Inuit survived while the white explorers
(English 19th explorers and earlier) and white settlers (Norse in
Greenland) perished from scurvy and rickets.
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
crisology wrote:
> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
> <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
>
> and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
> finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
> closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
> adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
> available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
>
>> low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
>
> Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
> So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
> Weight"?
>
>> And of course for this diet to have itsr best
>> effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
>> run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
>> little lady and your kids..
>
> I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
> effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
> while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
> hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
> time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
> provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
> would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
> expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
> foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
> successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
> breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
> fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
> meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
> availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
> meat eating than before depleted habitat.
>
>
>> Fruit isn't a balanced food
>
> I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
> sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
> "balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph balance?
> Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
> of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
> reverses many diseases associated with meat.
>
>
> and if one has syndrome X or
>> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
> Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
> "Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
> with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
> Medicine
> Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
>
> "Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
> red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
>
> "Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
> associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
> amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
> 2004
> And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
> alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
> addictions.
>
>> Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
> But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
> situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
> fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
> this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
> in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
> "situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
>
>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> Sustainably,
> Chris
It's incredible how we've survived on so many different kinds of
food! Yet we still can't agree on what's good for us. I wonder whether
we went through a mushroom-eating phase.
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
crisology wrote:
> On Apr 18, 10:24 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail . com |"
> <trigonometry1...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> If one cuts away all the theories based on origins
>
> and the comparative anatomy of closest related species/diets, then one
> finds the theories & known frugivorous adaptations among H. Sapiens &
> closest relatives also reflect the fact H. Sapiens are still best
> adapted for eating fruit in contrast to meat and to choose meat over
> available fruit seems to generally be a health compromise.
>
>> low carb diet is a pretty good way to lose weight.
>
> Which is why I said, "Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading."
> So the book should be called- "Another Pretty Good Way To Lose
> Weight"?
>
>> And of course for this diet to have itsr best
>> effect on weight lose it is important to carry a spear and
>> run after game/dinner and then carry back it to the
>> little lady and your kids..
>
> I agree. Exercise today is still the best treatment for game-feeding
> effects. I noticed you insist "cut[ting] away theories of origin"
> while narrowly focused on the Paleolithic Era & ignoring any
> hypothesis for biological adaptation to meat over fruit during any
> time period. In the (relatively brief window of time) scenario you
> provide (after the digestive system was already established), there
> would not be any reason to lose weight after such an energy
> expenditure and "the little lady" already gathered the staple plant
> foods (more often than not) in the frequent event that there was not a
> successful kill. Luckily, "the little lady" supplied the balanced
> breast milk to those kids, which mirrors a protein composition of many
> fruits. Yet here we consider a diet plan that favors some measure of
> meat over fruit/in a world closer in terms of climate and fruit
> availability to The Miocene Epoch with no more nutritional reason for
> meat eating than before depleted habitat.
>
>
>> Fruit isn't a balanced food
>
> I advocate mostly fruit but not all fruit diet. Coconuts alone can
> sustain human life for yrs (even without water). When you say
> "balanced" do you mean HDL balance w/LDL? Do you mean ph balance?
> Energy ratios? Or balance in terms of variety of species in diet? Meat
> of course is unbalanced (in all the above) while fruit naturally
> reverses many diseases associated with meat.
>
>
> and if one has syndrome X or
>> type 2 diabetes it will elevate blood sugar levels.
> Fruit generally has a slow insulin spike.
> "Conclusions: Fruit and vegetable intake may be inversely associated
> with diabetes incidence particularly among women." -Preventive
> Medicine
> Volume 32, Issue 1, Jan 2001, Pages 33-39
>
> "Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and
> red meat" -Archives of Internal Medicine. 2004;164:2235-2240.
>
> "Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were
> associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially
> amongst those who drink alcohol." -Diabetologia, Volume 47, (2) Feb,
> 2004
> And those who consume high meat fat diets are also more prone to have
> alcohol dependency with excess galanin increasing cravings for both
> addictions.
>
>> Fruit is most a seasonal food in primitive situations.
> But all digestive adaptations were among ancestors "in primitive
> situations." And most digestive adaptation was before the Ice Age when
> fruit was less a seasonal food and habitat was twice as vast. Even
> this advertised book clinging to the Ice Age reflects a diet founded
> in specific primitive situations (& extreme climate change). Modern
> "situations" didn't reverse fermenting digestive processes.
>
>> And the dried forms are poor sources of vitamin C.
> So are the "dried forms" of meat.
>
> Sustainably,
> Chris
It's incredible how we've survived on so many different kinds of
food! Yet we still can't agree on what's good for us. I wonder whether
we went through a mushroom-eating phase.
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
On Apr 19, 4:51 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 17, 6:58 pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
> > Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
> > (including Amazon)!
>
> > This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
> > studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
> > it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
> > the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
> > out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
> > balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
> > those aspects of your life and much much more!
>
> > The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
> > of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
> > the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
> > section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
>
> > I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> > * w w w .evolution-diet . com
>
> It looks like a photo of some sort of grilled meat on the link. I'll
> buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93evolved=
=94 to
> benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
> of various fruit. Just the protein overdose alone from meat doesn=92t
> seem to provide nutritional advantage to trade available fruit for
> meat. "Human milk has the lowest protein concentration (about 7% of
> energy) of any primate milk that has been studied (Oftedal, 1984). So
> it would seem chimps (naturally producing 2.8 times the human protein
> concentration in breast milk, Buss et al., 1976) need more grilled
> meat than H. Sapiens.
Have you compared the fat content? I would suggest that humans need
more animal fat than the lean meat protein in their diet. They have
the largest brain which is made of fat after all ...
Taka
> Can anyone provide a morphological hypothesis explaining how H.
> Sapiens evolved or adapted to the point that eating red meat was not a
> compromise to fruit (if available) within the last 600,000 yrs? Before
> this point it seems meat was an unreliable peripheral food after root
> veg. I'm still looking for ANY evidence H. Sapiens ADAPTED to benefit
> more from meat than a variety of fruit. Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading.
>
> Deglaciating & detoxing after the Ice Age,
> Chris
On Apr 19, 4:51 am, crisology <crisol...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 17, 6:58 pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I=92m extremely pleased to announce that the second edition of The
> > Evolution Diet is now available through distribution channels
> > (including Amazon)!
>
> > This latest edition is chalk-full of interesting stories and more
> > studies describing the diet and its benefits and I=92m very happy with
> > it as an instructional tool. Thousands of people have been helped by
> > the diet and the accompanying online tools and I encourage you to find
> > out more if you=92re interested in attaining an ideal weight, achieving
> > balanced energy, or sleeping better. The Evolution Diet will help in
> > those aspects of your life and much much more!
>
> > The general concept of the diet plan hasn=92t changed (emulate the diet
> > of our hunter/gatherer ancestors), but the wealth of information in
> > the book has increased exponentially. We=92ve even included an entire
> > section on living off the land. The Evolution Diet has truly evolved!
>
> > I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> > * w w w .evolution-diet . com
>
> It looks like a photo of some sort of grilled meat on the link. I'll
> buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93evolved=
=94 to
> benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
> of various fruit. Just the protein overdose alone from meat doesn=92t
> seem to provide nutritional advantage to trade available fruit for
> meat. "Human milk has the lowest protein concentration (about 7% of
> energy) of any primate milk that has been studied (Oftedal, 1984). So
> it would seem chimps (naturally producing 2.8 times the human protein
> concentration in breast milk, Buss et al., 1976) need more grilled
> meat than H. Sapiens.
Have you compared the fat content? I would suggest that humans need
more animal fat than the lean meat protein in their diet. They have
the largest brain which is made of fat after all ...
Taka
> Can anyone provide a morphological hypothesis explaining how H.
> Sapiens evolved or adapted to the point that eating red meat was not a
> compromise to fruit (if available) within the last 600,000 yrs? Before
> this point it seems meat was an unreliable peripheral food after root
> veg. I'm still looking for ANY evidence H. Sapiens ADAPTED to benefit
> more from meat than a variety of fruit. Perhaps the book provides a
> treatment plan for obesity but the title seems misleading.
>
> Deglaciating & detoxing after the Ice Age,
> Chris
Re: The Evolution Diet Has Evolved!
> > On Apr 17, 6:58 pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> > > * w w w .evolution-diet . com
> > I'll buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93ev=
olved=94 to
> > benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
> > of various fruit.
On Apr 19, 3:41 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I would suggest that humans need more animal fat than the lean meat protei=
n in >their diet.
Since H. Sapiens "need" NO "lean meat protein" from animals, it is
impossible to need less animal fat than animal protein.
I hunted/gathered and haven't found a reason yet to believe fat
consumption must be "animal fat" if fruit is available (especially
considering unreliable amounts of meat eaten as a fallback food/before
recent fire kindling as brain size developed from increased selective
pressure for intelligence among overlapping primates during
competitive struggles in diminished habitat/climate change.
>They have the largest brain which is made of fat after all ...
"anthropoid primates generally produce diluted milk with low levels of
fat, protein and gross energy" (Oftedal, 1980).
Among limited primates studied, H. Sapiens have the lowest protein,
high levels of sugar, moderate amounts of fat content in breast milk. -
Laboratory Primate Newsletter, 36 (2) APRIL 1997
I don't see how moderate production of fat in H. Sapiens breast milk
(among the primate order, producing/requiring little fat over all)
needs to be animal based AND how it is the reason for H. Sapiens
evolving larger brains WHILE meat was only a fallback food. Nuts
provide long chain fatty acids for brain development.
"When animal foods are wholly excluded from the diet, the endogenous
production of EPA and DHA results in low but stable plasma
concentrations of these fatty acids" -American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition, Vol. 82, No. 2, 327-334, August 2005
Otherwise, animal fat consumption (especially processed meats)
contributes to Alzheimers, lower IQ, ADHD, brain cancer risk, etc.
"Humans need relatively little protein, because our large brains need
lots of sugars ; we daily need 125-150 gram of pure glucose for the
brain only."
"She should consume as much fruit and other brainfood, containing all
the nutrients she and her baby need." - * w w w .13.waisays . com /
breastfeeding.htm
Organically,
Chris
> > On Apr 17, 6:58 pm, Joe <jsmors...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > I welcome you to learn more about the book and the diet.
>
> > > * w w w .evolution-diet . com
> > I'll buy your book if you can explain how we are =93designed=94 or =93ev=
olved=94 to
> > benefit more from this recent meat cooking custom while given a choice
> > of various fruit.
On Apr 19, 3:41 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail . com > wrote:
> I would suggest that humans need more animal fat than the lean meat protei=
n in >their diet.
Since H. Sapiens "need" NO "lean meat protein" from animals, it is
impossible to need less animal fat than animal protein.
I hunted/gathered and haven't found a reason yet to believe fat
consumption must be "animal fat" if fruit is available (especially
considering unreliable amounts of meat eaten as a fallback food/before
recent fire kindling as brain size developed from increased selective
pressure for intelligence among overlapping primates during
competitive struggles in diminished habitat/climate change.
>They have the largest brain which is made of fat after all ...
"anthropoid primates generally produce diluted milk with low levels of
fat, protein and gross energy" (Oftedal, 1980).
Among limited primates studied, H. Sapiens have the lowest protein,
high levels of sugar, moderate amounts of fat content in breast milk. -
Laboratory Primate Newsletter, 36 (2) APRIL 1997
I don't see how moderate production of fat in H. Sapiens breast milk
(among the primate order, producing/requiring little fat over all)
needs to be animal based AND how it is the reason for H. Sapiens
evolving larger brains WHILE meat was only a fallback food. Nuts
provide long chain fatty acids for brain development.
"When animal foods are wholly excluded from the diet, the endogenous
production of EPA and DHA results in low but stable plasma
concentrations of these fatty acids" -American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition, Vol. 82, No. 2, 327-334, August 2005
Otherwise, animal fat consumption (especially processed meats)
contributes to Alzheimers, lower IQ, ADHD, brain cancer risk, etc.
"Humans need relatively little protein, because our large brains need
lots of sugars ; we daily need 125-150 gram of pure glucose for the
brain only."
"She should consume as much fruit and other brainfood, containing all
the nutrients she and her baby need." - * w w w .13.waisays . com /
breastfeeding.htm
Organically,
Chris
