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Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 16:36
Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

"Blood on cupboard handles, telephones, computer keyboards, side
tables and the floor"

'Crime Scene Investigation' Methods Could Help In The Battle Against
Hospital Infections
ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2008) =97 Inspired by the popular television
drama CSI, investigators in the Netherlands have trialed methods used
by forensic scientists at crime scenes to highlight infection risks in
their hospital. Researchers at Deventer Hospital used Luminol, a
chemical used by crime scene investigators, to detect traces of blood
in their haemodialysis unit. Luminol reacts with microscopic amounts
of blood to produce bright blue luminescence, which allows
investigators to track invisible blood splashes in the environment.

Bergervoet et al tested their apparently clean unit with Luminol. They
found traces of blood on many surfaces including cupboard handles,
telephones, computer keyboards, side tables and the floor, even though
some of these surfaces had been cleaned. They expect that these
results can be reproduced in other hospitals that plan to use Luminol
in the future as described in their paper.

The group of researchers suggests that following on from their
research, Luminol could be used as part of a hospital infection
control regimen, in order to highlight risks associated with the
contamination of the hospital environment with blood. Bergervoet et al
specifically discuss the possibility that the hepatitis C virus may be
transmitted via such environmental contamination.

Corresponding author Dr Paul Bergervoet of Deventer Ziekenhuis
commented: "The aim of this article is to introduce this method to the
infection control professionals so it can be used to monitor cleaning
and disinfection procedures and alert healthcare workers to the
possibility of contamination of the hospital environment with blood."

Journal reference: "Application of the forensic Luminol for blood and
infection control" by PWM Bergervoet, N van Riessen, FW Sebens and WC
van der Zwet,appears in the Journal of Hospital Infection, doi:10.1016/
j.jhin.2008.01.026, published by Elsevier on behalf of the Hospital
Infection Society.

Adapted from materials provided by Elsevier.
-----------------------------------
* tinyurl . com /4w6sfr

"Doctors self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
9 percent."

---------------------------------------------------------------

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Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
* tinyurl . com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk




Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 16:45
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

On Apr 23, 7:36=A0am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote:Doctors
self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
9 percent <<

Public beatings .. ?

They=92d try to =93catch=94 a doctor who was washing up, giving him a $10
Starbucks card as reward. You might think that the highest earners in
a hospital wouldn=92t much care about a $10 incentive =97 =93but none of
them turned down the card,=94 Silka says. When the nurse spies reported
back the latest data, it was clear that the hospital=92s efforts were
working =97 but not nearly enough. Compliance had risen to about 80
percent from 65 percent, but the Joint Commission required 90 percent
compliance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
These results were delivered to the hospital=92s leadership by Rekha
Murthy, the hospital=92s epidemiologist, during a meeting of the Chief
of Staff Advisory Committee. The committee=92s roughly 20 members,
mostly top doctors, were openly discouraged by Murthy=92s report. Then,
after they finished their lunch, Murthy handed each of them an agar
plate =97 a sterile petri dish loaded with a spongy layer of agar. =93I
would love to culture your hand,=94 she told them. They pressed their
palms into the plates, and Murthy sent them to the lab to be cultured
and photographed. The resulting images, Silka says, =93were disgusting
and striking, with gobs of colonies of bacteria.=94 The administration
then decided to harness the power of such a disgusting image. One
photograph was made into a screen saver that haunted every computer in
Cedars-Sinai. Whatever reasons the doctors may have had for not
complying in the past, they vanished in the face of such vivid
evidence. =93With people who have been in practice 25 or 30 or 40 years,
it=92s hard to change their behavior,=94 Leon Bender says. =93But when you
present them with good data, they change their behavior very rapidly.=94
Some forms of data, of course, are more compelling than others, and in
this case an image was worth 1,000 statistical tables. Hand-hygiene
compliance shot up to nearly 100 percent and, according to the
hospital, it has pretty much remained there ever since. Cedars-Sinai=92s
clever application of incentives is certainly encouraging to anyone
who opposes the wanton proliferation of bacterial infections. But it
also highlights how much effort can be required to solve a simple
problem =97 and, in this case, the problem is but one of many. Craig
Feied, a physician and technologist in Washington who is designing a
federally financed =93hospital of the future,=94 says that hand hygiene,
while important, will never be sufficient to stop the spread of
bacteria. That=92s why he is working with a technology company that
infuses hospital equipment with silver ion particles, which serve as
an antimicrobial shield. Microbes can thrive on just about any surface
in a hospital room, Feied notes, citing an old National Institutes of
Health campaign to promote hand-washing in pediatric wards. The
campaign used a stuffed teddy bear, called T. Bear, as a promotional
giveaway. Kids and doctors alike apparently loved T. Bear =97 but they
weren=92t the only ones. When, after a week, a few dozen T. Bears were
pulled from the wards to be cultured, every one of them was found to
have acquired a host of new friends: Staphylococcus aureus, E. coli,
Pseudomonas, Klebsiella.. . .


Who loves ya.
Tom


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* tinyurl . com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk





> "Blood on cupboard handles, telephones, computer keyboards, side
> tables and the floor"
>
> 'Crime Scene Investigation' Methods Could Help In The Battle Against
> Hospital Infections
> ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2008) =97 Inspired by the popular television
> drama CSI, investigators in the Netherlands have trialed methods used
> by forensic scientists at crime scenes to highlight infection risks in
> their hospital. Researchers at Deventer Hospital used Luminol, a
> chemical used by crime scene investigators, to detect traces of blood
> in their haemodialysis unit. Luminol reacts with microscopic amounts
> of blood to produce bright blue luminescence, which allows
> investigators to track invisible blood splashes in the environment.
>
> Bergervoet et al tested their apparently clean unit with Luminol. They
> found traces of blood on many surfaces including cupboard handles,
> telephones, computer keyboards, side tables and the floor, even though
> some of these surfaces had been cleaned. They expect that these
> results can be reproduced in other hospitals that plan to use Luminol
> in the future as described in their paper.
>
> The group of researchers suggests that following on from their
> research, Luminol could be used as part of a hospital infection
> control regimen, in order to highlight risks associated with the
> contamination of the hospital environment with blood. Bergervoet et al
> specifically discuss the possibility that the hepatitis C virus may be
> transmitted via such environmental contamination.
>
> Corresponding author Dr Paul Bergervoet of Deventer Ziekenhuis
> commented: "The aim of this article is to introduce this method to the
> infection control professionals so it can be used to monitor cleaning
> and disinfection procedures and alert healthcare workers to the
> possibility of contamination of the hospital environment with blood."
>
> Journal reference: "Application of the forensic Luminol for blood and
> infection control" by PWM Bergervoet, N van Riessen, FW Sebens and WC
> van der Zwet,appears in the Journal of Hospital Infection, doi:10.1016/
> j.jhin.2008.01.026, published by Elsevier on behalf of the Hospital
> Infection Society.
>
> Adapted from materials provided by Elsevier.
> ----------------------------------- * tinyurl . com /4w6sfr
>
> "Doctors self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
> when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
> 9 percent."
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk


Reply from: Twittering One
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 16:54
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

Atul Gwande write on this subject in his book "Better."

An important subject; although clearly he sticking to subjects safe to
report, already cited in other reports. No breaking news.

Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 17:10
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

On Apr 23, 7:54 am, Twittering One <mournenwo...@aol . com > wrote:
Atul Gwande write on this subject in his book "Better." <<

See .. I just saved you twelve bucks and alot of time ..

"Arrogant morons"


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
* tinyurl . com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk



>
> An important subject; although clearly he sticking to subjects safe to
> report, already cited in other reports. No breaking news.


Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 17:17
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

On Apr 23, 8:10 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote:
"Arrogant morons" <<

The latest really takes the cake ..

The hospital personel were found to wash in PUBLIC even LESS than the
normal .. joe ..


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
* tinyurl . com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk





> On Apr 23, 7:54 am, Twittering One <mournenwo...@aol . com > wrote:
> Atul Gwande write on this subject in his book "Better." <<
>
> See .. I just saved you twelve bucks and alot of time ..
>
> "Arrogant morons"
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk
>
>
>
>
>
> > An important subject; although clearly he sticking to subjects safe to
> > report, already cited in other reports. No breaking news.- Hide quoted t=
ext -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 16:57
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

On Apr 23, 7:45=A0am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote: Public
beatings .. ?<<

* w w w .cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/douglas-tommy.html

The 1962 Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike was a 23-day labour action
exercised by medical doctors in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan
in an attempt to force the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation
government of Saskatchewan to rescind its program of universal medical
insurance.

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan_Doctors'_Strike

Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
* tinyurl . com /2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk




> On Apr 23, 7:36=A0am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote:Doctors
> self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
> when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
> 9 percent =A0<<
>
> Public beatings .. ?
>
> They=92d try to =93catch=94 a doctor who was washing up, giving him a $10
> Starbucks card as reward. You might think that the highest earners in
> a hospital wouldn=92t much care about a $10 incentive =97 =93but none of
> them turned down the card,=94 Silka says. When the nurse spies reported
> back the latest data, it was clear that the hospital=92s efforts were
> working =97 but not nearly enough. Compliance had risen to about 80
> percent from 65 percent, but the Joint Commission required 90 percent
> compliance.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-=AD-----
> These results were delivered to the hospital=92s leadership by Rekha
> Murthy, the hospital=92s epidemiologist, during a meeting of the Chief
> of Staff Advisory Committee. The committee=92s roughly 20 members,
> mostly top doctors, were openly discouraged by Murthy=92s report. Then,
> after they finished their lunch, Murthy handed each of them an agar
> plate =97 a sterile petri dish loaded with a spongy layer of agar. =93I
> would love to culture your hand,=94 she told them. They pressed their
> palms into the plates, and Murthy sent them to the lab to be cultured
> and photographed. The resulting images, Silka says, =93were disgusting
> and striking, with gobs of colonies of bacteria.=94 The administration
> then decided to harness the power of such a disgusting image. One
> photograph was made into a screen saver that haunted every computer in
> Cedars-Sinai. Whatever reasons the doctors may have had for not
> complying in the past, they vanished in the face of such vivid
> evidence. =93With people who have been in practice 25 or 30 or 40 years,
> it=92s hard to change their behavior,=94 Leon Bender says. =93But when you=

> present them with good data, they change their behavior very rapidly.=94
> Some forms of data, of course, are more compelling than others, and in
> this case an image was worth 1,000 statistical tables. Hand-hygiene
> compliance shot up to nearly 100 percent and, according to the
> hospital, it has pretty much remained there ever since. Cedars-Sinai=92s
> clever application of incentives is certainly encouraging to anyone
> who opposes the wanton proliferation of bacterial infections. But it
> also highlights how much effort can be required to solve a simple
> problem =97 and, in this case, the problem is but one of many. Craig
> Feied, a physician and technologist in Washington who is designing a
> federally financed =93hospital of the future,=94 says that hand hygiene,
> while important, will never be sufficient to stop the spread of
> bacteria. That=92s why he is working with a technology company that
> infuses hospital equipment with silver ion particles, which serve as
> an antimicrobial shield. Microbes can thrive on just about any surface
> in a hospital room, Feied notes, citing an old National Institutes of
> Health campaign to promote hand-washing in pediatric wards. The
> campaign used a stuffed teddy bear, called T. Bear, as a promotional
> giveaway. Kids and doctors alike apparently loved T. Bear =97 but they
> weren=92t the only ones. When, after a week, a few dozen T. Bears were
> pulled from the wards to be cultured, every one of them was found to
> have acquired a host of new friends: Staphylococcus aureus, E. coli,
> Pseudomonas, Klebsiella.. . .
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > "Blood on cupboard handles, telephones, computer keyboards, side
> > tables and the floor"
>
> > 'Crime Scene Investigation' Methods Could Help In The Battle Against
> > Hospital Infections
> > ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2008) =97 Inspired by the popular television
> > drama CSI, investigators in the Netherlands have trialed methods used
> > by forensic scientists at crime scenes to highlight infection risks in
> > their hospital. Researchers at Deventer Hospital used Luminol, a
> > chemical used by crime scene investigators, to detect traces of blood
> > in their haemodialysis unit. Luminol reacts with microscopic amounts
> > of blood to produce bright blue luminescence, which allows
> > investigators to track invisible blood splashes in the environment.
>
> > Bergervoet et al tested their apparently clean unit with Luminol. They
> > found traces of blood on many surfaces including cupboard handles,
> > telephones, computer keyboards, side tables and the floor, even though
> > some of these surfaces had been cleaned. They expect that these
> > results can be reproduced in other hospitals that plan to use Luminol
> > in the future as described in their paper.
>
> > The group of researchers suggests that following on from their
> > research, Luminol could be used as part of a hospital infection
> > control regimen, in order to highlight risks associated with the
> > contamination of the hospital environment with blood. Bergervoet et al
> > specifically discuss the possibility that the hepatitis C virus may be
> > transmitted via such environmental contamination.
>
> > Corresponding author Dr Paul Bergervoet of Deventer Ziekenhuis
> > commented: "The aim of this article is to introduce this method to the
> > infection control professionals so it can be used to monitor cleaning
> > and disinfection procedures and alert healthcare workers to the
> > possibility of contamination of the hospital environment with blood."
>
> > Journal reference: "Application of the forensic Luminol for blood and
> > infection control" by PWM Bergervoet, N van Riessen, FW Sebens and WC
> > van der Zwet,appears in the Journal of Hospital Infection, doi:10.1016/
> > j.jhin.2008.01.026, published by Elsevier on behalf of the Hospital
> > Infection Society.
>
> > Adapted from materials provided by Elsevier.
> > ----------------------------------- * tinyurl . com /4w6sfr
>
> > "Doctors self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
> > when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
> > 9 percent."
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Reply from: cmarie
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 22:41
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

On Apr 23, 7:45 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 7:36 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail . com > wrote:Doctors
> self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
> when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
> 9 percent <<
>
> Public beatings .. ?
>
> They=92d try to =93catch=94 a doctor who was washing up, giving him a $10
> Starbucks card as reward. You might think that the highest earners in
> a hospital wouldn=92t much care about a $10 incentive =97 =93but none of
> them turned down the card,=94 Silka says. When the nurse spies reported
> back the latest data, it was clear that the hospital=92s efforts were
> working =97 but not nearly enough. Compliance had risen to about 80
> percent from 65 percent, but the Joint Commission required 90 percent
> compliance.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
------
> These results were delivered to the hospital=92s leadership by Rekha
> Murthy, the hospital=92s epidemiologist, during a meeting of the Chief
> of Staff Advisory Committee. The committee=92s roughly 20 members,
> mostly top doctors, were openly discouraged by Murthy=92s report. Then,
> after they finished their lunch, Murthy handed each of them an agar
> plate =97 a sterile petri dish loaded with a spongy layer of agar. =93I
> would love to culture your hand,=94 she told them. They pressed their
> palms into the plates, and Murthy sent them to the lab to be cultured
> and photographed. The resulting images, Silka says, =93were disgusting
> and striking, with gobs of colonies of bacteria.=94 The administration
> then decided to harness the power of such a disgusting image. One
> photograph was made into a screen saver that haunted every computer in
> Cedars-Sinai. Whatever reasons the doctors may have had for not
> complying in the past, they vanished in the face of such vivid
> evidence. =93With people who have been in practice 25 or 30 or 40 years,
> it=92s hard to change their behavior,=94 Leon Bender says. =93But when you=

> present them with good data, they change their behavior very rapidly.=94
> Some forms of data, of course, are more compelling than others, and in
> this case an image was worth 1,000 statistical tables. Hand-hygiene
> compliance shot up to nearly 100 percent and, according to the
> hospital, it has pretty much remained there ever since. Cedars-Sinai=92s
> clever application of incentives is certainly encouraging to anyone
> who opposes the wanton proliferation of bacterial infections. But it
> also highlights how much effort can be required to solve a simple
> problem =97 and, in this case, the problem is but one of many. Craig
> Feied, a physician and technologist in Washington who is designing a
> federally financed =93hospital of the future,=94 says that hand hygiene,
> while important, will never be sufficient to stop the spread of
> bacteria. That=92s why he is working with a technology company that
> infuses hospital equipment with silver ion particles, which serve as
> an antimicrobial shield. Microbes can thrive on just about any surface
> in a hospital room, Feied notes, citing an old National Institutes of
> Health campaign to promote hand-washing in pediatric wards. The
> campaign used a stuffed teddy bear, called T. Bear, as a promotional
> giveaway. Kids and doctors alike apparently loved T. Bear =97 but they
> weren=92t the only ones. When, after a week, a few dozen T. Bears were
> pulled from the wards to be cultured, every one of them was found to
> have acquired a host of new friends: Staphylococcus aureus, E. coli,
> Pseudomonas, Klebsiella.. . .
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk
>
> > "Blood on cupboard handles, telephones, computer keyboards, side
> > tables and the floor"
>
> > 'Crime Scene Investigation' Methods Could Help In The Battle Against
> > Hospital Infections
> > ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2008) =97 Inspired by the popular television
> > drama CSI, investigators in the Netherlands have trialed methods used
> > by forensic scientists at crime scenes to highlight infection risks in
> > their hospital. Researchers at Deventer Hospital used Luminol, a
> > chemical used by crime scene investigators, to detect traces of blood
> > in their haemodialysis unit. Luminol reacts with microscopic amounts
> > of blood to produce bright blue luminescence, which allows
> > investigators to track invisible blood splashes in the environment.
>
> > Bergervoet et al tested their apparently clean unit with Luminol. They
> > found traces of blood on many surfaces including cupboard handles,
> > telephones, computer keyboards, side tables and the floor, even though
> > some of these surfaces had been cleaned. They expect that these
> > results can be reproduced in other hospitals that plan to use Luminol
> > in the future as described in their paper.
>
> > The group of researchers suggests that following on from their
> > research, Luminol could be used as part of a hospital infection
> > control regimen, in order to highlight risks associated with the
> > contamination of the hospital environment with blood. Bergervoet et al
> > specifically discuss the possibility that the hepatitis C virus may be
> > transmitted via such environmental contamination.
>
> > Corresponding author Dr Paul Bergervoet of Deventer Ziekenhuis
> > commented: "The aim of this article is to introduce this method to the
> > infection control professionals so it can be used to monitor cleaning
> > and disinfection procedures and alert healthcare workers to the
> > possibility of contamination of the hospital environment with blood."
>
> > Journal reference: "Application of the forensic Luminol for blood and
> > infection control" by PWM Bergervoet, N van Riessen, FW Sebens and WC
> > van der Zwet,appears in the Journal of Hospital Infection, doi:10.1016/
> > j.jhin.2008.01.026, published by Elsevier on behalf of the Hospital
> > Infection Society.
>
> > Adapted from materials provided by Elsevier.
> > ----------------------------------- * tinyurl . com /4w6sfr
>
> > "Doctors self-reported their hand-washing rate at 73 percent, whereas
> > when these same doctors were observed, their actual rate was a paltry
> > 9 percent."
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! * tinyurl . com /2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! * tinyurl . com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING * tinyurl . com /zk9fk

Hi-Last June as I waited with 4-5 other people in a small room on
uncomfortable chairs waiting for our lovely colonoscopy exams; the
nurse came and went; in and out and from one patient to another; to
the cupboard taking out needles and IV bags...opening them, draining
out some of the fluid, attaching lines..putting four or five pieces of
tape on the leg of her scrubs..then going to a patient to swab their
arm, inset the needle/IV and secure with the pieces of tape she had
put on her pants..ALL with NEVER washing her hands or put on gloves
ONCE during the entire time...in and out of the room and repeating
everything from one patient to the next. I could not believe what I
was witnessing. Not ONE hand sanitizing or washing or glove and the
tape continuously put on and pulled from her pants.
Impressive sugery center! and the exam was like a nightmare.
I waited so long nearly 2 hours -I had to use the restroom and they
had me carry my IV bag in my hand, holding it up over my head...all
and the floors were dirty. man walked into my dressing room while I
was getting into a gown.
The anesthisia nurse left the room before administering my meds...she
was upset saying 'You can do it! I;m leaving!
The remaining nurse said oh-ok and I don't think I got any medication
and the Dr did not wait for it to take affect if I even GOT the
medication. I know I NEVER gave him consent to start.
I screamed the entire time for him to STOP and the nurse held me down
so all I could do was SCREAM and pray Oh Lord Please help me over and
over between screams for himi to stop. Needless to say I was awake and
aware the entire procedure and the Dr just had a dumb silent look on
his face afterwards when I asked him WHY he didn't stop.
The medicine 'kicked in' after it was all over.
When I called him the next day to ask him again 'why' He just repeated
'I'm sorry'
NEVER go to Banner Surgi center-in PHX.

Reply from: Marshall Price
Date: 03 May 2008, 23:59
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted

ironjustice wrote:
> "Hepatitis may be transmitted."

Hepatitis just means inflammation of the liver. *Infectious*
hepatitis refers to transmissible diseases, of course.

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

Reply from: Waterspider
Date: 09 May 2008, 06:09
Re: Hepatitis May Be Transmitted


"Marshall Price" <d021317c@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:sO6dndZ5MY-vfYHVnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
> ironjustice wrote:
> > "Hepatitis may be transmitted."
>
> Hepatitis just means inflammation of the liver. *Infectious* hepatitis
> refers to transmissible diseases, of course.
>
And, of course, "hepatitis" can also refer to the hepatitis virus *and* the
disease caused by said virus.
In English, there are many cases where a word can have several meanings.






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